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Matt Davies

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Nov 6, 2013
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Man: But, I like my current health plan. 
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  1. Barnette
    Enoki  about 4 years ago

    And, that’s his buiness not mine or the government’s. A bad choice on your part does not create a problem that government needs to solve on my part unless what you decided to do was criminal.

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    AlnicoV   about 4 years ago

    The big insurance companies have made a habit of blaming every messed up thing they do on the ACA. The reality is that most of those things are what they would have done anyway. Dropping coverage, withholding information and jacking the rates are all things they would have done anyway. The weird part is the number of people coming out of the woodwork quite literally demanding to be ripped off by their insurer.

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  3. Giraffe cat
    I Play One On TV  about 4 years ago

    “Sure thing—the get taxed for not signing up. Of course you liberals call it a fine.”

    And what did YOU call it when it became the centerpiece for Medicare Part D? Did you insist on taking it to the Supreme Court?

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    Hawthorne  about 4 years ago

    Well, that’s a different aspect of the thing isn’t it? Quite right though. It’s simple extortion, really.

    The worst of the MediCare travesty is that under no circumstances can an applicant actually find out anything about coverage on his own. The details of the policies they want to sell you are not available, except to insurance brokers and agents. And no, they don’t make them available either. What they do is ask you questions about your health status (which they assure you you don’t have to answer), and then tell you which policy would ‘best suit your needs’.

    What that means is that under force of the threat of penalties and fines (never mind the prospect of dying of something ugly but treatable), you must make a mostly blind selection from a group a broker or agent has determined ‘meets your needs’.

    Apparently the only way the US government knows how to deal with it’s constituents is by bullying and threats. I don’t consider that approach to be either civilized or progressive.

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    pirate227  about 4 years ago

    Ignorance is bliss until you get sick.

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  6. Giraffe cat
    I Play One On TV  about 4 years ago

    Which country on earth has the highest rate of health-expense-caused bankruptcies? Why the one with the “greatest health care system in the world”. Be proud.

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  7. Sunset on fire
    Fuzzy Thinker GC Insider about 4 years ago

    Health Care would not be so expensive if the doctors took a $200,000 pay cut and malpractice lawsuits were capped at $1 million.

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    echoraven  about 4 years ago

    Before the ACA I had a health plan that took care of my needs when I got sick. Like millions of others, that is no longer the case.

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  9. Duck713
    Brass Orchid GC Insider about 4 years ago

    Alleged lying? Since he has stated one thing previously, and another recently, and they are not the same thing, he must certain have been lying one of those times, and quite possibly both.“You can keep your plan and your doctor, period.”“What I said was you can keep your plan and your doctor if they conform to the requirements of the ACA and they do not change.”Which of those is not a lie? Better yet, if I ask Obama of 2013 what the Obama of 2012 will answer if I ask if the door on the right is the safe door, what will he say?Since you insist that he is always telling the truth, then one of him must always be lying.

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    Don Winchester GC Insider about 4 years ago

    That makes ZERO sense! We ALL have to live with his INCOMPETENCE!!!!

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  11. Duck713
    Brass Orchid GC Insider about 4 years ago

    “Those who believed him may complain. YOU can’t.”Right. Because if you were not actually in the clergy at the time of the Holy Inquisition, then you, as a random victim of that inquisition, have no standing to claim harm from any lies perpetrated by the Holy Roman Church. No this is the sort of logic that people can understand. The real victims are the people who were the inquisitors, after all. yay!

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  12. Duck713
    Brass Orchid GC Insider about 4 years ago

    You got him that time. The debt Obama is piling up won’t be paid by anybody alive today. That is the sort of indebtedness that used to result in people being born into slavery. Not that Bush’s spending was any better, but we were promised that things would change, and we just didn’t expect it to change for the worse, though an examination of history should have given us a clue.

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  13. Duck713
    Brass Orchid GC Insider about 4 years ago

    Since it is reality, it is actually directed at all, by none.

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  14. Duck713
    Brass Orchid GC Insider about 4 years ago

    Conversations I understand. Arguments that deliberately divide people, each onto shaky ground apart from the solid consensus they should naturally hold by direct observation of factual reality, leave me a bit puzzled. It seems a bit like log-rolling, where whoever falls off last has the best argument just because their wind-milling was more successful, though their position was identically precarious.

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  15. Duck713
    Brass Orchid GC Insider about 4 years ago

    It’s a lot. And this is with the employer mandates suspended for a year to allow people to keep their insurance as supplied by their employers through the 2014 mid-term election cycle. Although why it should alter the outcome of the elections, I cannot imagine, since it is all for the good and benefits everybody. At least that’s what the bold face type says. Haven’t gotten to the fine print yet, I suppose. But I’m sure that the bold face never lies.

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  16. Duck713
    Brass Orchid GC Insider about 4 years ago

    If your plan does not have the proper bells and whistles, then you will lose it. According to the law, they cannot change your plan and remain grandfathered in. But they cannot remain grandfathered in if they do not meet the requirements of the law. All existing plans that do not meet the minimum requirements of the ACA will be terminated, unless there are special dispensations allowed by the Church for reasonable considerations, such as campaign contributions by Unions or from corporate bundlers. Martin Luther could not be reached for comment on this Popular Law.

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