Joel Pett by Joel Pett

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comYics said, 7 months ago

Improving the air and earth and a better way of utilizing energy, really is a healthy way to go. Lets get some creatives to come up with some new green jobs that everybody can do. Not only a few managers that have 30 years experience making fossil fuel.

Start getting rid of landfills, and making packages dissolvable. Less trash less massive air pollutants. Instead of driving miles to get to work, lets have work close enough to each of us to bike to work, or work at home. Lets Get These At Home Jobs Started! WOOO. Im sure many of you are with me on that. We can produce and ship items from home, at home business on treadmills to keep fit. 3-4 day work weeks. 1 day emphasised on health fitness day a week. Better food, gardeners galore. Fruits and vegtables. Jobs Jobs Jobs, healthy jobs, extra time with family, homeschool. All this is good. Yah!
Radish said, 7 months ago

You have to put more energy into a system than you can get out of it.
omQ R said, 7 months ago

”What if it’s all a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing!”

Oh, excellent!
harleyquinn said, 7 months ago

If only they were working on half that. Nope they are crying about who pays!
Bruce4671 said, 7 months ago

comYics is right but those things don’t require total dependance on the governement to provide and therefore a permanent job for the politicians that cut the relief check….
av8tor said, 7 months ago

The citizens of the USA have not looked to anyone else but themselves for their own success. Their ingenuity and resourcefulness have brought many thousands of technological advances that’s benefited the whole world. They’re being punished out of envy and jealousy.

More’s the dishonest socialist President Obama seems to agree with the resentful socialist agenda of the UN. The citizens of the US need to demand an honest and open accounting of the climate science both pro and con human factors in driving so-called warming. The cost of the so-called climate reparations being forced on them, as though they have committed crimes, is staggering. Why has it become a crime to be hardworking and inventive?
No man nor machines have the capability to change the weather. all are to infinitesimal to make any kind of a world wide difference. Do the math and wake up before you are enslaved by the criminal socialists who do nothing but suck from the public trough.
JDG said, 7 months ago

I love the sarcasm in the toon…”created a better world for nothing”!!
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

So true, so true…and Scott nails it.

The pollution-lovers like Scott will win because their way is easier and cheaper…for now.

And so what if it makes the world worse for our kids…the rapture will occur before then, right, Scott? So the only kids left will be those who deserve to live in a polluted, ruined world.
human said, 7 months ago

The guy in the audience reminds me of several posters here like scottfreitas, harleyquinn, ANandy, av8tor to name a few above.
Business in a fascist nation like the USA is all about maximizing income for a few owners and top management types. If that means dumping waste into streams or the air or cheaper but more difficult to recycle packaging among other things then that is what they will do unless otherwise forbidden to do so.

av8tor If a study was done, *(a relatively honest unbiased study) and it was determined that the “developed nations” & the USA in particular were at fault would you accept that and pay the cost of clean up? I very much doubt that. No matter how honest or unbiased the result your type would deny any and all fault.

There are many simple things that could be done that would not change our life style at all.
The Idea to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could easily be achieved by growing hemp and using hemp as a replacement for many produce now needing : cotton(fabrics & seed oil), trees(wood,paper,etc), corn(vegetable oil, bio-fuel stock,) etc. Hemp is one of the most useful plants on the planet yet it is illegal to grow in the USA.
Hemp can grow more fiber in one acre than almost any other crop and grow it faster , cheaper. and better. But will this be done !? Not very likely ! The neocon fascist republican thugs in uniform *(like the aforementioned individuals) make too much money by keeping it illegal or have some issue with one possible use of the plant.

But Growing hemp to absorb excess CO2 would be a cheap and easy possible solution. < Just one of many that will not likely take place because of the aforementioned types of individuals.
av8tor said, 7 months ago

Human..I repeat..No man nor machines have the capability to change the weather. all are to infinitesimal to make any kind of a world wide difference. Do the math and wake up before you are enslaved by the criminal socialists who do nothing but suck from the public trough
human said, 7 months ago

Av8tor the USA may be very innovative but it is by no means the most innovative. And if it were not for the fascist Republicans like Ronald two faced Regan , or I’m not a crook Nixon or the last fascist republican pres. Bush jr. then the USA might be a leader in renewable energy and the environmental movement technologies. We did invent many of them like the solar cell but Germany is now the leader in solar technology followed by Japan.
There are many things invented in this country that the fascist republicans in there all out quest to destroy the middle class and subjugate the population are more than willing to give what little edge the USA has to others for a short term profit for a very few.
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

C’mon, Avator, show us some proof that massive production of CO2, plus massive destruction of CO2 removal mechanisms like the rain forests, not to mention other pollutants, has *no* worldwide effect.

And just to save time, please avoid sources that are fundie christian, or financed by the oil companies?

And perhaps, just to put things in perspective, you could tell us why you’re so pro-pollution?
charlie555 said, 7 months ago

A rich woman visited Mother Teresa in Calcutta. When she observed the nun caring for a poor street man covered in oozing sores she exclaimed, “I wouldn’t do that for a million dollars.” Mother Teresa replied, neither would I, but I will do it gladly for God.”

Men will not live simple, low-impact-on-nature lives for “make the world a better place ” platitudes. The Gores prove this. But men will live simple lives because this is the example left us by the Holy Family of Nazareth and the Saints for our sanctification and eternal happiness.

Encourage the spread of observant Christianity and the earth will really be a better place.
av8tor said, 7 months ago

Carbon dioxide is exhaled by every breathing human being on the planet, and is no more a “pollutant” than are the leaves that fall from trees. It has been vilified in recent years as the mechanism of “man made global warming,” though the empirical evidence reveals a trend of global cooling for the past decade, nothing more than the standard cyclical variations of earth’s temperatures in the years of recorded data prior to that and Yet now the government seeks to monitor and ultimately manage this harmless and completely natural component of the air we breathe, as if it has suddenly metamorphosed into some sinister “controlled substance” that might be dealt illegally in urban back alleys. This flagrant effort to extend the tentacles of the state into virtually every manufacturing process, every back-yard barbeque, and every exhaled breath in the country should alarm any citizen who recognizes the need for some limit on the scope and reach of government.
Meanwhile, the EPA is displaying criminal negligence with respect to one of its duly authorized responsibilities. It should be investigating the matter of fraudulent claims, and suppressed data, at the University of East Anglia in England, where the “holy of holies” of “climate change” advocacy resides. Rather than remaining faithful to the true methodology of science, its members engaged in an orchestrated hoax, insisting that the earth has been steadily warming while distorting or hiding a mass of evidence which proves that recorded temperatures are inarguably on the decline.
omQ R said, 7 months ago

^ av8tor demands: ”Meanwhile, the EPA is displaying criminal negligence with respect to one of its duly authorized responsibilities. It should be investigating the matter of fraudulent claims, and suppressed data, at the University of East Anglia in England

How an earth does an American agency “investigate” a British academic instituition?
Talk about arrogance…sheesh…

Motivemagus provided us with this Associated Press investigation into the 1073 emails stolen from the University of East Anglia:
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20091212/D9CI226O0.html

E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data - but the messages don’t support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

Nice sentiment, Charlie, but too many fundie-christians like Av8tor, Puppy, Anandy and of course Scott feel that Genesis has given them stewardship of the planet, which they interpret to mean that they can destroy it and still go to their heaven, even if it means people like Av8tor have to lie through their teeth to ignore the CO2 produced by other than “breathing human being(s)” sources in order to advance their pro-pollution-loving agenda.

How sad they couldn’t adopt this interpretation:

http://tinyurl.com/yeuqrsk
Slowpoke Halol said, 7 months ago

The world should be cleaned, no question. Pollution? Makes the air harder to breathe. Unfortunately, the campaign for this change has to be headed by this man-made climate change debate. I used to have respect for the scientists there, but now the scientists have gone and wrecked my respect.

Why did they have to hide their methods? Whatever happened to the scientific method that I learned about in school? This screams money (why am I surprised?).

Don’t spare me the “I am a pollution lover” argument. That argument is silly. I don’t want my country to end up like China, where they wear masks to breathe in their major cities. Where’s the nuclear power, nuclear fusion? That stuff is ridiculously clean compared to fossil fuels.

Anthony, you might like this: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/metadata/noaa-icecore-2475.html

Click the link under data.
charlie555 said, 7 months ago

^Thanks, Anthony. Good link.

I lived through the chicken-littles of the 70’s, so find it difficult to be excited now. I figure if man makes the earth a hostile environment, the problem will be solved naturally because man will die out in significant enough numbers for the earth to renew.

The four horsemen - war, plague, famine, and death - are always ready for a romp.
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

Slowpoke, read the link OmQ R provided, realize the scientists involved are desperate to avoid the sequelae of the evidence they’ve found, despite the fundie christians and pro-pollution people, and get back to us.
dtroutma said, 7 months ago

Can’t help but be reminded that the audience member is raising the “Saddam’s got WMDs and we can win this war for nothing” argument advanced by the same folks behind the climate change deniers.
harleyquinn said, 7 months ago

Doc said
“Thank you, fundamentalists.”

You should be cursing them! they are the ones who forestalled our advances in Nuclear energy! I mean come on France is ahead of us in that regarded France!

They are the ones who sit and bleeep things like CO2 and protect perfectly good grazing land that has been used for a 150 years as grazing land. The now want the Utah owner to turn it over to the government because a wild cat might want to live on it someday!
Ronshua said, 7 months ago

The on the wall agenda . Hoped for by all , I hope .

Would the interpretation of the last line ” etc.etc.” be , American taxpayers pay whatever the cost ?

I say , thank God for Global warming without it , this winter would be a record setter . The rising sea level and all is Miami Fl. still dry ? Sacramento Ca. is 11 foot sea level so I’ll hold off my move to Reno until San Jose is under water .
ahab said, 7 months ago

Thanks Anthony,om Q R, and d salmonidae ma,singing to the choir,lovely toon Joel. Some folks are willing to sell out their children and grandchildren for greed and because it’s too hard. Talk about spineless. The items listed are as American as apple pie. Those against it….
harleyquinn said, 7 months ago

And ahab has just proven one of my points “The items listed are as American as apple pie. Those against it….”

Al Gore and his sci fi propaganda film has done more to harm the environment then anything I can think of in the past. His chicken little crying about the demon CO2 has turned many off to a real environmental movement!
Hey want to help by selling me that patch of land behind your baseball field so I can reclaim it for wet lands? Nope I gave money to Al Gore and I am Carbon Neutral.

By the way, the world’s natural wetlands produce more greenhouse gas contributions annually than all human sources combined.
Then you have the coming ice age nope it is the coming heat wave, nope now it is poler bear. Then these leaks of how the so called scientist are manipulating the data to get more grants. Those with two brain cells that were not taken in whole hog by the religion of al gore are sick of it all. They will just do nothing.
All of that and more =Al Gore bad for the public at large wanting to do anything to help the environment!

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Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

All that ranting, yet Harley never mentioned why he’s so pro-pollution.

Why do you hate our children so much, Harley?

http://tinyurl.com/yeuqrsk
Slowpoke Halol said, 7 months ago

Yes Anthony, for example, I could make some studies on gravity, fake them, but gravity would still exist. However, the gravity of this situation is a little bit different, I should think. Should I really overlook this? I know the scientists want me to, because they’re human.

Just sayin, with this flying around, I don’t want people to be jumping the gun on man made climate change. I can understand the urgency of the environment, but play to the points you know I care about: pollution, deforestation, habitat destruction, not a dubious temperature increase.
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

Slowpoke, the only people who think we’re “jumping the gun” are ones who’ve only just become aware of the problem.

The concept of global warming didn’t just pop up a month ago.

But like I’ve said, you have nothing to worry about. The pollution-lovers will win, because their way is cheaper and easier, and doesn’t affect them…just our descendants, and they don’t care about them.
human said, 7 months ago

To repeat to av8tor: MANY MANY TIMES IN THE PAST HUMANS HAVE DISRUPTED THE ENVIRONMENT ENOUGH TO CAUSE THEIR DEMISE.
So not only is it possible it is likely and there is plenty of evedence to back me up from the Norse in Greenland to Easter Island to the Mayans to the Anasazi to some people in ancient Mesopotamia and many many others not mentioned.

Here in the USA we have decimated fishing areas made rivers so polluted that the fish are poisonous to eat and the fish populations have crashed. Some salmon runs are extinct because of you fascist types.

I am more than a little pissed off at you jerks.

There is absolutely, or nearly absolutely , nothing good to say about your kind. The one ‘good’ thing I can say about you fascist is that when the month pieces give you your talking points you all march lock step together. < The bad part of that is that there is not one independent thought among you.
Right or wrong my party first , community , country, or planet be dammnned!
harleyquinn said, 7 months ago

and anthony plays the “it’s for the children card”
“will win, because their way is cheaper and easier, and doesn’t affect them…just our descendants, and they don’t care about them.”

Al Gore has done more to harm then good when it comes to the “environmental movement”!
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

The truth hurts, huh, Harley?
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

Maybe we should point out that pollution is harmful to fetuses, then the pollution-lovers will rethink their position.
harleyquinn said, 7 months ago

Maybe you will look at the bill you are passing on “to save the children”
I guess Al Gore was saving the children in the 70’s when he was selling the coming of another ice age?
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

You didn’t tell us why you’re against improving the environment for our descendants, Harley…are you finding it difficult to put into words?

Why are you so pro-pollution?
NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

ThePup is against LittleJoeStalins pushing their weight around trying to take advantage of the freedom we have in America.
What harmful by-products are created when anaesthesia is made?
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

Your first statement, like so many of yours, has nothing to do with the debate, Puppy since there are no “LittleJoeStalins” here. But I would remind you of the old adage “Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins”. In other words, just because we could be free to pollute our environment doesn’t mean we should be allowed to destroy it for others who share it.

And I don’t have a clue to the answer of your question, but would remind you that with any manufacturing process, pollutants can be dumped into the air, water or ground, or they can be contained. The former is the cheaper and easier route that I can only assume people like you and Harley would prefer, as the latter is more expensive and would usually require government regulation.

And we don’t want nasty “big government” regulations impinging on our freedoms, do we, Puppy?
NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

Stop polluting my environment, Anthony. Set your hiney down and sit still…No cars, no computers, no medical equipment , no fluorescent lights ; you foul, noxious earth-killer!
NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

No toilets, no sinks, no running water, no underarm deodorant or toothpaste…Stop your noxious crimewave against my planet!
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

Calm down, Puppy. Is your understanding of the topic really that ignorant?

Does the fact that I use a computer mean that nothing should be done about any sort of pollution? No, it doesn’t, making your statements as stupid as…well, most of your statements.
NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

Hold it right there, pal…do you know where those toxic materials in your computer go when you throw them away?

Ghana

India and others…
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

That’s why I recycle those parts instead of throwing them away, Puppy. Don’t you?

The best way to recycle still-working parts is to sell them, or if not worth much, advertise them for free on Craig’s List. Usually someone will want them.
motivemagus said, 7 months ago

It is a real issue – there are stories of giant waste piles, with mercury and other dangerous chemicals, where kids pick through to find useful stuff. The solutions are twofold: first, get it out of the computer in the first place if you can (many are; Apple particularly); second, recycle appropriately.
fennec said, 7 months ago

In a number of places in Europe, it is illegal to throw electronic equipment into the trash. It must be picked up for disposal, and often you pay a fee for it.
Bruce4671 said, 7 months ago

same in my city in Florida. Special day, special drop off special handling but all covered by my taxes….yea!
motivemagus said, 7 months ago

Yeah. I have to say the comment that drives me wildest is “we breathe out carbon dioxide every day - it’s not a pollutant.” Yes, and arsenic is all natural - it’s an element! Cripes, too much of anything is bad for you, including oxygen, water, and of course food.

And the fact that your body gets rid of CO2 might tell people something, right? It’s referred to as a “waste product of expiration.” And if we cut down the various plants that absorb it, we’re ironically making an atmosphere much friendlier to plants than animals.
NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

Go ahead , motive - Green Up. I’ve given you your marching orders.

Anthony is so full of cow-doo-doo, it’s pointless to speak with him.
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

Try saying something that makes sense, Puppy, instead of just wallowing in your ignorance.

Then maybe you can grasp a point.

Computer recycling? You ran away with your tail between your legs.

“LittleJoeStalins”? You ran away with your tail between your legs.

Anesthesia and other manufacturing wastes? You ran away with your tail between your legs.

“Big government” regulations? You ran away with your tail between your legs.

Pollution is harmful to fetuses? You ran away with your tail between your legs.

Don’t you EVER get tired of being unable to look yourself in the mirror?
sclark55 said, 7 months ago

Mr. Pett: OK maybe we would create a better planet - but WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DO IT BASED ON A LIE? Maybe you get rid of some or even all pollutants, but WHY BASE IT ALL ON A LIE? I suggest that is NOT a better planet; I’d rather have some pollutants around.
NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

^^ Doo-doo.

I don’t know who’s posts you’ve been reading , Anthony. But they’re not mine…

“Socializing the free-market”…Why? Silence. Change topic.

“Is it in the Constitution?” More silence. When you Libs can stop spending your time rigging the system in order to get your un-popular programs passed…I guess I’ll stop calling you LittleJoeStalins. And I sincerely doubt you’ve “bought” back your debt you owe (as per Lib BELIEFS) with your recycling habits.
Anthony 2816 said, 7 months ago

No way I can tell whether it’s you or someone who’s hijacked your account, Puppy. But it sure sounds like you…acts like you too, the way you keep running away from things.

To answer your questions, what the heck are you referring to when you say “Socializing the free-market”? Make some sense and I’ll be happy to explain it to you.

Is what in the Constitution? Do you think that a topic has to literally be in the Constitution before a law can be passed or a program instituted? Would you like me to start listing examples?

And I will continue to recycle, thank you; even if you love pollution, I don’t. You could learn a lot about your religion from this person: be more like this? http://tinyurl.com/yeuqrsk
NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

So that’s your religion Anthony? That kind of religion is called common sense. Don’t poop in your water well. I’m not for polluting and despoiling the planet, I’m just against LittleJoeStalins taking advantage of hysteria for their own political ends. I don’t think there is anyone in America who is for polluting the planet. Since you are not a serious debater : this conversation is over.