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   Radish said, 4 months ago

   Leave it to Obama to nominate a moderate Republican.
   Sheesh, what a socialist.
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   mickey1339 said, 4 months ago

   I have a couple of friends that are “rabid” (their description) Progressives that are furious Obama nominated this guy and wonder when O is going to join the Republican party! I would have laughed except I know they are serious. The far left is very upset that Obama is continuing the Bush tax cuts, that he continued and broadened the Patriot Act and that he continues with Afghanistan instead of just packing up and leaving now.
   

   
   Hagel leaves me cold as a Sec. of Defense because it’s one more cabinet member out of the senate and I think he’s a bigot. Obama’s cabinet is getting a narrow focus from all the ex-senators and limit’s the administrations view on issues. It would be nice if he got some private sector people in his cabinet to expand their outlook on our country’s problems and offer some solutions other than raise taxes…
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   Chillbilly said, 4 months ago

   No compromise in American politics can possibly good if it doesn’t piss EVERYBODY off.
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   CasualBrowser said, 4 months ago

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   C D, did you read the article that this cartoon refers to? What he said wasn’t a caricature, it was chastizing American citizens, himself included, for substituting a slogan for actual effort on behalf of our military service members. I expect Mr. Holbert to make fun of MM based on superficial and slanted observations, but I’m suprized that you seem to have taken his statement at face value. The article is in support of our troops and veterans, as much as mere words can.
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   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/support-the-troops_b_2402749.html
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   TheTrustedMechanic said, 4 months ago

   Here is a link to the original blog where Michael Moore posted his blog. An opinion that has a great deal of validity, IF you stop and think about it.
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/support-the-troops_b_2402749.html
   I am sorry to see that Mr. Downs dismisses Michael Moore’s points because of “too many accusations and too few solutions.” I don’t know much about Mr. Moore beyond he is widely controversial as a filmmaker because he pi$$es off the right-wingers but I read his opinion piece with great irritation because, like it or not it was true and it was uncomfortable to have to agree that I am guilty of what he proposes. Oh sure we can all say, “But I don’t do that.” But we can’t refute every one of his allegations and if we were truly honest, we would have to admit that we are guilty of a majority of his points. So yes, we say we support the troops, but our actions are what count, not our words. So if you don’t actively do something that supports the troops, if you don’t vote out the Congresspeople who support the war spending, the military spending, the rape and abuse cover-ups, the continually dismal wages paid to our enlisted personnel, then you don’t support our troops. The republicans claim to be all about the military and making sure it has all the funds it needs, “To keep America safe,” but they then complain about the ranks of the food stamp and cash assistance programs. Do you know how many military personnel live in poverty and rely on these programs? The republicans don’t care, the money they care about goes to the suppliers who lobby and reward them, not the troops or the “labor” who do the actual work. They really don’t support the troops.
   I am sorry to see that Mr. Downs dismisses Michael Moore’s points because of “too many accusations and too few solutions.” It is not Michael Moore’s place to have all the solutions nor is it mine, or yours or Mr. Downs. But Mr. Moore is entitled to identify problems that he thinks we should be concerned with and that our elected officials need to address. He has the right to identify issues that we should be concerned with and select elected officials who will actively and aggressively work to correct them. Not one of us is smart enough about every issue plaguing this country to have all the answers, it must be a collective effort, but identifying a problem that we think needs to be resolved is something each and every one of us is capable of doing, and Mr. Moore did just that. And when I read his blog I see where he did propose solutions, broad and non-specific, but solutions none-the-less.
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   jack75287 said, 4 months ago

   @TheTrustedMechanic

   See you can say something nice and thoughtful as long as it is about the left!
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   Respectful Troll said, 4 months ago

   I deleted my original post as I have once again posted with too little information. I thought the cartoon was saying Mr. Moore would have been Mr. Obama’s choice over Hagel and was unaware of any recent writings by Mr. Moore. I thought Mr. Moore to just be a liberal Mr. Holbert pulled out of a hat.
   The last few times I’ve seen Mr. Moore giving interviews I heard many nonconstructive criticisms that just added to the ongoing diatribes of others. It is in this context I referred to him as a caricature and was unaware of the content to which I’ve now been directed.
   Mr. Moore’s movies have made positive contributions to the social and moral debates in our country, which is why I also said I hoped he would become more ‘relevant’, not realizing my error had made my own opinion irrelevant.
   I apologize for that part of my now deleted post.
   But my comment to Mickey that I know liberals who consider Obama to be a Reagan conservative is still valid.
   With thanks to those who focused me and keep me honest,
   C.
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   TheTrustedMechanic said, 4 months ago

   @Respectful Troll

   I know I “railed against” you but please accept my apologies if I was harsh or offensive. I truly respect you for reasons I’ve posted many times so your post was surprising, to a point. You were correct, there are many reasons to disregard or dismiss what Mr. Moore thinks, says or writes, but he still has valid points from time to time. I too did not have all the information for my post regarding your opinion and I am sorry. I can see where from your exposure to Mr. Moore you would think what you wrote. As I wrote, I do not know much about Michael Moore (aside from he shared my paternal uncle’s name) so I really have no opinion about him or his policies beyond what I read and posted the link to. I too hope he becomes relevant again. The only reason I knew about his comments about not supporting the troops was because as I wrote on another ’toon, it was posted in my local newspaper. And I do not read The Huffington Post for any who care to try and say I only get my info from liberal sources. I actually got (wrongly as it turns out) my tip to the Huff Post blog from a rant on Faux News that I pulled up during an internet search.
   

   
   Mr. Downs, please accept my apologies if I seem or seemed to be attacking or disrespecting you.
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   Respectful Troll said, 4 months ago

   @TheTrustedMechanic

   Apology not accepted, Mechanic, as it is totally unwarranted.
   I needed a slap upside the back of my head and you and Casualbrowser gave it to me at the right moment and for the right reason.
   The only thing worse than a lie is a lie told as a truth. I can’t find the author of that quote but I believe it.
   Mr. Moore was deliberately chosen and my post ignored that and, in doing so, trivialized Mr. Moore’s contribution to the debate. As I didn’t read the article, I was not qualified to invoke his name.
   That’s a beer I owe you, Mechanic. Another one for watching my back under Lisa Benson’s cartoon. If I don’t watch myself, I’ll be having to sponsor a keg party somewhere. Mickey, Dred, and RobertLanders will be there too. ;)
   Grateful for good neighbors,
   C.
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    bhinkle said, 4 months ago

    @Radish

    “A Republican”? All-the-same, one-size-fits-all. yep, that surely is the Republican party. Bozo, if you believe that.
    What do you know about Chuck Hagel?
    At least he might be a better Administrator than the ineffective, spotlight-loving incompetent he is replacing.
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    bhinkle said, 4 months ago

    @mickey1339

    Of course he’s a bigot. He’ll fit right in with Obama and his 93% and 73%.
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    Ms. Ima said, 4 months ago

    Michael Moore, world’s biggest coward. Underpays the women working for him.
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    wbr said, 4 months ago

    my liberal friends dislike brennan becuse he supports drone,waterboarding [until recently] and sending prisoner to other countries to be tortured
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    dtroutma said, 4 months ago

    Michael Moore is often “over the top” on his comments, and will lead with a punch he pulls later in his dialogue. The difference between his version, and when Limbaugh goes “Over the top” is that Moore cites facts, and apologizes when he incorrectly places blame. Limbaugh never apologizes for anything, no matter how blatant the distortion, offense, or outright lie.
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    MortyForTyrant said, 4 months ago

    Oh yes, please! Fastest way to reduce the Pentagon spending. With Mike roaming the hallways all the hawks will go of their own accord. And he has a way to find corruption that will drive away all the defense-contractors. Hagel will be good, but Moore… Wow! I would pay money to see this :-)
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