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  1. old1953

    old1953 said, about 18 hours ago

    I personally have nieces and grandkids that are out for 11 or 12 hours with exactly one extracurricular activity plus school time. And this is with one parent not working, no business about using the schools as babysitters.
    Add in homework, and kids are often working hours adults reject.

  2. Jase99

    Jase99 said, about 13 hours ago

    Here’s a radical idea: Teens need to get their @SS to bed earlier to get more sleep.

  3. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, about 13 hours ago

    @Jase99

    Something to do about the natural circadian clock.


    "Changes to this circadian rhythm occur during adolescence, when most teens experience a sleep phase delay. This shift in teens’ circadian rhythm causes them to naturally feel alert later at night, making it difficult for them to fall asleep before 11:00 pm. Since most teens have early school start times along with other commitments, this sleep phase delay can make it difficult to get the sleep teens need — an average of 9 1/4 hours, but at least 8 1/2 hours. This sleep deprivation can influence the circadian rhythm; for teens the strongest circadian “dips” tend to occur between 3:00-7:00 am and 2:00-5:00 pm, but the morning dip (3:00-7:00 am) can be even longer if teens haven’t had enough sleep, and can even last until 9:00 or 10:00 am. "

  4. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 13 hours ago

    @omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    There might be an evolutionary reason for this, but I’m not even going to guess at it (too much amateur guessing these days). Before artificial lighting, didn’t people get up at dawn and go to sleep at dark? These days, nighttime lighting allows us to stay up much longer than we probably should.
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    Is this yet another modern human innovation that goes against human physical and social nature (as in diet, tribal socialization, etc.)? But, you know – many teenagers (a relatively modern concept in itself?) do stay up way too late.
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    I’ve beaten this old dusty rug before, but I think that the bad habit of not getting enough sleep, and many others in our society, stem from our consumerism way of life. We serve the system; it seems to serve us but it doesn’t, in the long run.

  5. Observer fo Irony

    Observer fo Irony said, about 12 hours ago

    I tried to sleep more but my parents always told me that I could not sleep in on school days.

  6. opednance

    opednance said, about 11 hours ago

    @emptc12

    “Teenagers” may be a newer term, but complaining about them is VERY old.
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    “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
    - Socrates

  7. Balto Bill

    Balto Bill said, about 11 hours ago

    @emptc12

    “There might be an evolutionary reason for this…”

    The only reason there ever is: Procreation.

    Adolescence = sexual maturity.

    Early man had to procreate at an early age because no one knew how long they were going to survive.

    … and who “does it” in the daytime?

    … ergo, those that could stay up later had the most opportunities.

  8. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 10 hours ago

    @Balto Bill

    Not to make too much of it, but humans do it every chance they get — day and night, inside and outside. (Have you ever lived in a college dorm, or in an apartment with thin walls?) If they did it only at night, I think there would probably be a lot fewer people in the world. However, I am far from an expert on this subject.
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    I recalled an article a while back in “National Geographic” about Bonobos (March, 2013). Chimps and Bonobos are our closest surviving non-human relatives, according to the article. If our mating habits can be compared to theirs, it might be useful to observe the subject objectively through them. Of course, I know this comparison is not completely valid in all points. Just saying, it might be close.
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    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/03/125-bonobos/quammen-text
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    There is also an article from October, 2011, with scientific findings about the Teenage Brain that discusses an adolescent’s need for extra sleep beyond what many get these days:
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    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/print/2011/10/teenage-brains/dobbs-text
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    I am not a trained scientist, just a science enthusiast, and my opinions are not necessarily the correct ones.

  9. Zin Rosenblum

    Zin Rosenblum said, about 10 hours ago

    Sleep? There’s a napp for that

  10. prfesser

    prfesser said, about 10 hours ago

    “Scientific” explanations for human behavior, such as circadian rhythm fail to take into account a variety of other factors, such as physiological development and differences, social factors, and personal predilections.
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    Left to oneself, one would tend to go to sleep when tired and wake up when done sleeping. People who attempt to live by circadian rhythm tend to gravitate to something aligning with their particular lifestyle – frequently later to bed and later to rise than the “normal” hours society deems “appropriate.”
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    These sleeping hours tend to change over time, both in terms of how much sleep we take, and when we take our sleep. However, functioning in the real world is most effective when we are able to function at the same time as is “normal” for our society. This means conditioning ourselves to align with the standard “9 to 5” activity day.
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    It doesn’t hurt anyone to condition themselves this way, although we’d all probably function a bit better if left to our own devices. But then, how would a school function if it had to account for everyone’s own particular circadian rhythm? Have our teachers work from 9 AM to 11 PM just to make sure everyone has the chance to study at their best times?
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    We’d all probably be better off if we had a standard “10 AM to 7 PM” day, but that would eliminate farming as a way of life, and their goes our food.
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    By the way, agriculture is probably the greatest influence on our current activity clock – agriculture is best done during the sunny part of the day. That’s also the stimulus that has to do with the body’s production of melatonin, which we produce in large quantities when it gets dark, and encourages us to sleep.

  11. gmgodsil

    gmgodsil said, about 10 hours ago

    @Jase99

    You aren’t or never were a parent, right? We were tough parents and made our kids be in bed at earlier times than their friends, so of course they graduated with honors & had 3 majors in college. Your solution is part of the overall solution, but I still feel that starting school at 9am is a good idea.

  12. Harleyquinn

    Harleyquinn GoComics PRO Member said, about 8 hours ago

    If you can not move the time for the school, reset your own clock. Get the Teenager up, get a full spectrum light bulb and have them eat breakfast full of Protein under the light. It really helps.

  13. dzw3030

    dzw3030 said, about 6 hours ago

    @emptc12

    _"I am not a trained scientist, just a science enthusiast, and my opinions are not necessarily the correct ones."– Careful! honest folks don’t catch much slack these days.

  14. TripleAxel

    TripleAxel said, about 6 hours ago

    @Jase99

    “Here’s a radical idea: Teens need to get their @SS to bed earlier to get more sleep.”
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    Great idea. Learning how to get up early when you need to while staying well rested is an important skill for later success.

  15. r2varney

    r2varney said, about 5 hours ago

    Want to get up later, move West to get yourself into a timezone that suits your fancy.

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