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Jeff Danziger

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  1. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, over 3 years ago

    I think you are laboring under an illusion. Perhaps this will make you think differently: After WWII, the victors took the spoils, as usually happens. They decided to divide what was then Palestine into two states, one Jewish, one Arab. The Jewish state was named Israel, the Arab state was named Jordan. There were Arabs living in Israel, and Jews living in Jordan. Some moved; the borders were never closed.

    Immediately upon the announcement, Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria declared war on Israel. It has been on an off since then.

    In 1967, Russian-supplied troops from those same countries attacked Israel on the holiest day of the Jewish calendar. Not only did the Israeli army rebuff the invasion, but they drove the invaders beyond the established borders. These lands now are “disputed”. I defy you to show me any where, any time, when a victor in war’s claim to territory is “disputed” except in this instance.

    So, the people now identified as Palestinians are considered “refugees” from a war that has been officially over for 45 years, and started almost seventy years ago.

    Personally, if I feel I’m a refugee, and no one gives me land after seventy years, I will figure it’s time for me to get off my butt and either move or establish residency, not expecting the world to owe me a favor after all this time. But that’s just me.

    Israel has returned some of those territories in trade for promise of peace, yet there is no peace.

    Off the top of my head, I can name these Arab countries nearby which could do something positive for the “refugees”: Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, United Arab Emirates, Dubai, Qatar, Yemen, Turkey…I’m sure I left out one or two. NONE of them has offered to take care of their brethren.

    We can argue the legitimacy of the settlements on the “disputed” lands until the cows come home. Israel is not blameless, for sure, but when people attack you over and over for decades, most people understandably lose patience.

    Keep in mind, though, that while Yassir Arafat was “earning” his Nobel Peace Prize, he was smuggling tons of explosives for terrorism purposes into the “disputed territories”.

    It is to Israel’s benefit to allow yet another Arab state to be established to house these “refugees”, simply because the birth rate shows that soon Israel will no longer be a Jewish-majority state, and it has been shown over and over that minority rule is almost never pretty. The downside to that one is that there will be yet another Arab country that refuses to acknowledge Israel’s existence, and will continue to carry out suicide bombings, etc., so allowing a Palestinian state will not bring peace to the area. Under the circumstances, many Israelis, Netanhyahu chief among them, wonder why Israel continues to accede to demands from outside sources, while gaining absolutely nothing in return.

    This stuff has been going on for thousands of years. I don’t see it getting better, even if Palestine becomes a sovereign state today.

  2. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    I play one on tv: You might want to review your history a little. I was in ‘Nam at the time of the ’67 war, but it was ISRAEL that opened that war with air strikes on ALL their neighbors in attacks just like Pearl Harbor by the Japanese, that kicked off OUR participation in WW II. With their neighbors’ air forces destroyed on the ground, the rest was a given, especially with the military at Israel’s command. They took the West Bank (Jordan), Golan (Syrian territory) and Gaza (Egyptian territory), and were sitting on nukes even back then.

    I had my own little “action” going at the time, and we had no more right to invade ‘Nam, than Israel had, and the phony rationales weren’t much better then, or when we invaded Iraq under “W”.

  3. Steam  Vapor

    Steam Vapor said, over 3 years ago

    I’m with Masters- it’s like shoveling the walk while it’s still snowing.

  4. ru2dum020

    ru2dum020 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Your take on Uncle Sam ready to cut off Florida from the rest of us law abiding folks – especially around any large US City and the dead and walking wounded we have and now what with the NRA Supreme Court and affiliates demanding we have concealed weapons laws on the books so there we be more dead bodies around – doesn’t seem like such a bad idea, maybe we should end up with Armed Encampments using Gates and Fences to surround all our law abiding territories. Can just see it now, the United Cities of Chicago and their armed Officers daring anyone to shoot carrying targets on their backs to offer incentives?. Holy Massacre!!!

  5. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, over 3 years ago


    Thank you for your information. I was in the States at that time. Although it was long ago, I am pretty sure that the story I related was the one that we were told. Perhaps the story was “modified” for the American audience, and your information was more trustworthy. It would be hard to imagine orthodox Jews initiating a war (or doing anything other than attending synagogue) on Yom Kippur….that one’s hard to rationalize. Again, thanks, and I will do some digging at your suggestion.

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