Henry Payne by Henry Payne

Henry Payne

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  1. Radish

    Radish GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    The military is exempt from pollution laws.

  2. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 3 years ago

    Sounds about right.

  3. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 3 years ago


    Sorry no, all oils are stored and recycled to the highest standard. When I was in the military poor so much as a pan of oil into the soil and you get an Article 15.

    All fuels are stored and transported to the highest standard and the Army is developing a family of hybrid trucks. Sorry no we are kept to a higher standard and yes the law governs us.

  4. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 3 years ago


    Thank you for that comment to Radish, Jack. I had never thought about the issue until this cartoon brought it up and your first hand account is very helpful. My daughter is with a truck unit and did two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. But she never mentioned the standards to which you are held.
    Thank you for your comment, and even more,
    for your service.
    Be safe, neighbor.

  5. wmconelly

    wmconelly said, almost 3 years ago

    Payne is off topic as usual, albeit FURTHER off than usual. Does the guy know there are people in the world OUTSIDE his gated little community in GOP-ville?

  6. Radish

    Radish GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Perchlorate, the explosive ingredient in solid rocket fuel, has leaked from military bases and defense and aerospace contractors’ plants in at least 22 states, contaminating drinking water for millions of Americans. The chemical has also been found widely in supermarket milk, produce and many other foods, and in a separate study, the CDC found it in the urine of every person tested. As small changes in thyroid hormone levels during pregnancy — even within the normal range — are associated with decreased intellectual and learning capacity in childhood, the extensive reach of perchlorate contamination has huge implications for public health.
    We Have Met The Enemy

    The U.S. Department of Defense is the largest polluter in the world, producing more hazardous waste than the five largest U.S. chemical companies combined. (1) The types of hazardous wastes used by the military include pesticides and defoliants like Agent Orange. It includes solvents, petroleum, perchlorate (a component of rocket fuel) lead and mercury. And most ominously, depleted uranium.

    The health problems that have been documented as being attributable to these various toxins in military use include miscarriages, low birth weight, birth defects, kidney disease and cancer. Military pollution most directly affects those who are targeted by our weapons, soldiers and anyone living near a military base, both in the U.S. and abroad. In the U.S., one out of every ten Americans lives within ten miles of a military site that has been listed as a Superfund priority cleanup site. (2)
    Way Off Base

    The number of health problems and environmental problems that have been reported near military installations throughout the world is truly staggering. The following are only a few of the many examples.

    The U.S. Navy is the largest polluter in the San Diego, California area, having created 100 toxic sites during the last 80 years. Environmental damage caused by the Navy includes spilling over 11,000 gallons of oil into the San Diego Bay in 1988. Fish in the Bay contain high levels of mercury and radioactive compounds that are attributable to Navy pollution of the Bay. (4)

    Near the Naval Air Station in Fallon, NV high rates of cancer and rare diseases have probably been linked to the dumping of jet fuel, radio and electronic emissions and the contamination of groundwater with radioactive materials. Fallon has the highest per capita rate of childhood leukemia in the nation. (5)

    It is important to note that the contamination of military bases is also a problem overseas where significant toxic pollution has impacted the areas near U.S. military bases in countries such as South Korea, the Philippines and Panama.

    Pollution from the manufacturing of military weapons is equally horrific. The soil near a plant that manufactured depleted uranium rounds in Colonie, New York was found to have 500 times the amount of uranium that one could normally expect to find in soil. (6)

    Military waste disposal sites also pose significant problems. Recently, evidence of contamination from the Diamond Alkali plant which manufactured Agent Orange that was used in Vietnam was found in the Newark Bay in New Jersey. Bottom dwellers in the Bay contain the highest levels of dioxins ever recorded in aquatic animals, high enough to guarantee cancer at the same levels in humans. Many low income, immigrant and homeless residents of the area rely on the Bay for subsistence fishing and thus face the considerable risks of exposure and ingestion of Agent Orange. (7)

    At Rocky Flats, a former nuclear weapons plant site in Colorado, Jon Lipsky, a former FBI agent, has recently come forward to expose the contamination of the land that he says the EPA and FBI and Department of Justice are suppressing. Lipsky and other plaintiffs in a case against the DOJ are concerned about plans to turn Rocky Flats into a wildlife refuge without adequately cleaning up the contamination. As Lipsky and others point out, disguising a toxic dump as a tourist attraction to be visited by schoolchildren is unacceptable. (8)

    The cleanup of sites such as these have slowed considerably since President George W. Bush took office. EPA inspections at military sites have dropped by 10%. The number of fines has dropped by 25% and the dollar amount of fines has been smaller. Overall spending on the cleanup of military sites has dropped 20% since 2001. Military spending on the cleanup of hazardous sites amounts to only 1% of the military budget. (9)

    As is the case with many pollutants, the effects of perchlorate, a toxic rocket fuel component, knows no bounds. New research has found perchlorate, in women’s breast milk in eighteen states. It can also be found in ground water, crops such as lettuce and dairy milk. Perchlorate can cause mental retardation, loss of hearing and speech and motor skill problems. (10) Like other pollutants that are now finding their way into breastmilk, perchlorate puts mothers in the untenable position of simultaneously nurturing and (many times unknowingly) poisoning their children.
    This could be in part because military spending and activity, especially after 9-11, just keeps expanding with no end in sight. While the federal government is the world’s worst polluter, the Department of Defense alone actually pollutes more than the rest of the federal government combined. Yet environmentalist activism directed against the government’s pollution is virtually nonexistent.

    As ProjectCensored.org reported last year:

    “The US military is responsible for the most egregious and widespread pollution of the planet, yet this information and accompanying documentation goes almost entirely unreported. In spite of the evidence, the environmental impact of the US military goes largely unaddressed by environmental organizations and was not the focus of any discussions or proposed restrictions at the recent UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen. This impact includes uninhibited use of fossil fuels, massive creation of greenhouse gases, and extensive release of radioactive and chemical contaminants into the air, water, and soil.”

    In 2005, Lucinda Marshall, founder of the Feminist Peace Network, wrote that the U.S. Department of Defense produces more hazardous waste than the five largest U.S. chemical companies combined. From cancer-causing depleted uranium ammunition and armor, to perchlorate rocket fuel leaking from literally hundreds of military plants and installations into the groundwater of 35 states, to the military’s unquenchable thirst for fossil fuels– the Department of Defense is polluting our environment more than anyone else.

  7. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Interesting side discussion on military contamination around the world with many chemical agents (diesel and gasoline are “chemical agents” as are nuclear and dioxins). It also brings to mind when my son was in Baghdad, they (Navy) had to bring in their own water purifiers, because the “potable” water provided by Halliburton WAS POISON!! with serious contamination!.

    Which also, the environmental damage to wildlife in Kuwait is NOT recovered after Saddam burned the oil fields, and much of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the MIddle East is in serious trouble after the wars.

    WAR is not good for children, OR OTHER LIVING THINGS! (even plants, ask Viet Nam.)

  8. ahab

    ahab GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago


    Great post Radish. I fully expect Tigger and Harlequin to trip over the post and hurt their poor whitto heads!

  9. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 3 years ago


    Yes Radish but that does not make us exempt, we moved two cities half way around the world the last decade what does that tell you. You don’t think you don’t make pollution doing that. We also clean up everything we leave behind.

    A few years ago the Army closed down an old base, there was an old rifle range there that had old musket balls still in it, and the army turned over all the dirt to get the lead out of the ground. Believe it or not the military does a lot of good people don’t know about.

    Last, maybe you should read a few different sources, the ones you posted seem pretty one sided.

  10. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago


    “Yes Radish but that does not make us exempt, we moved two cities half way around the world the last decade what does that tell you. You don’t think you don’t make pollution doing that. We also clean up everything we leave behind.”

    There are numerous exemptions on the books for the military. The President can also grant exemptions for activities that would be in the “paramount interest of the United States”.

    Exemptions from Environmental Law
    for the Department of Defense

    The military has been improving its impact on the environment, but has a ways to go. Besides the emissions from vehicles, there are still problems with oil spills & contamination from toxic chemicals used in munitions. There is a lot of leftover waste from earlier days, too:


  11. ahab

    ahab GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    @Uncle Joe

    D.U. munitions to pierce heavy armor as Uncle Joe mentioned = Depleted Uranium penetrating munitions were used by NATO forces and the U.S in Bosnia, Serbia, and during the Gulf war, and in Iraq.

  12. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 3 years ago

    @Uncle Joe

    True just like any industrial vehicles. The military transports fuel in 18 wheelers they have accidents with those all the time.

    To be honest yeah when you get shot at no one cares at that moment.

  13. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, almost 3 years ago


    Wikipedia “perchlorate”. Stop reading those radical Eco websites. You’ll sleep better.

  14. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 3 years ago


  15. ahab

    ahab GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago


    Stop drinking fracked water and you’ll live longer.

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