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Time to go. They don’t want us there. We are WASTING money there and arguing about who should pay. This situation is more than childish. Now the rebublicans want to start another war. War has not worked out well for the USA since WWII when there was a clear goal and support from the people.
Why do you blame republicans? Clean the wax out of your ears and listen to the war drums being beat on both sides. Your favorite liberal cronies are doing the exact same thing you’re accusing republicans of. Use your brain, don’t just repeat rhetoric.
The single thing that concerns me about withdrawing from Afghanistan is Pakistan’s possession of nuclear weapons. I would give high probability that the Taliban and El-Qaeda would re-establish themselves in Afghanistan giving those jihadist groups a base of operations. Include the northern provinces of Pakistan in this mix along with the doubtful loyalty of the Pakistani intelligence services and army, and you could wind up with Islamic radicals governing Pakistan. Just think of the consequences of this possible scenario.
It’s not rhetoric, but fact. This war was started when the Shrub was in office, over protests by the citizens. Obama inherited the war, and things have gotten from bad to worse with some of the things our boys have done over there. If I had command, we’d be encircling both Afghanistan & Iraq and letting them fight things out among themselves and only letting up when there’s one clear player in each to deal with.
I want to leave to but I am afraid what will happen if we have to go back. @Dr Who Afghanistan in the 70 before the Russians came was its golden age it was doing great.
It is still a huge waste of money and American lives. it is time to go. Bring our troops home. Reelect President Obama. At this time, who cares that our dumbest and worst president ever was in charge when the worst attack on America occurred? Who cares that the shrubster stopped looking for osama bin laden? Who cares shrubster and crew tilted the playing field so far to the right and in favor of the 1%? Are you personally reaping any of the benefits, or just a few already very rich?
OK, since you have opened the issue – Which of the countries being discussed have attacked us? Afghanistan harbored the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks. Iraq attacked a US ally (Kuwait) in 1990 and was ejected from Kuwait by a multinational force. Iran is sabre rattling and developing a nuclear program but is at least several years from posing a major threat. Syria has a repressive regime, but is not a threat to the US.
Pakistan, Iran, Bangladesh?, Burma?, Ethiopia?, Yemen?, Argentina?, Sudan?, Syria?, so many cards, so many possible targets, oh right, some are our “friends” now? Give Mitt or the chickenhawks a chance, they won’t be.
I interpret Payne as saying that the US exiting Afghanistan would pull down the house of cards. I feel that he is probably correct, but how long should we continue to prop up a corrupt government when the citizens don’t want us there? Yes, if we exit Afghanistan and the government collapses the Republicans will blame Obama; if the government survives and the people prosper the Republicans will complain that we should have exited earlier, so who really cares what Republicans say?
I just hope it doesn’t turn out like last time, when the CIA was lending STINGER missiles to aid the Afghani people against the Soviet Union. When the USSR pulled out, so did we, when they needed us the most to help establish a new government. The resulting power vacuum allowed Al-Qaeda to take over and sowed the seeds of that horrible day in 2001.
Called "the Thomas Nast of his time" by The National Review magazine, Payne is an informed journalist whose investigative writing has also made national headlines.
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cjr53 said, about 1 year ago
Time to go. They don’t want us there. We are WASTING money there and arguing about who should pay. This situation is more than childish. Now the rebublicans want to start another war. War has not worked out well for the USA since WWII when there was a clear goal and support from the people.
sw10mm said, about 1 year ago
Why do you blame republicans? Clean the wax out of your ears and listen to the war drums being beat on both sides. Your favorite liberal cronies are doing the exact same thing you’re accusing republicans of. Use your brain, don’t just repeat rhetoric.
zoidknight said, about 1 year ago
@sw10mm
Not allowed. It is elitist and racist for them to use their brains.
zoidknight said, about 1 year ago
@cjr53
So let me get this straight, if someone attacks us we are not allowed to defend ourselves? Who do you think you are? The French?
mikefive said, about 1 year ago
@cjr53
The way you have expressed what you expressed leaves you with no credibility.
mikefive said, about 1 year ago
The single thing that concerns me about withdrawing from Afghanistan is Pakistan’s possession of nuclear weapons. I would give high probability that the Taliban and El-Qaeda would re-establish themselves in Afghanistan giving those jihadist groups a base of operations. Include the northern provinces of Pakistan in this mix along with the doubtful loyalty of the Pakistani intelligence services and army, and you could wind up with Islamic radicals governing Pakistan. Just think of the consequences of this possible scenario.
Ketira shena Pretarasedrin
said, about 1 year ago
@sw10mm
It’s not rhetoric, but fact. This war was started when the Shrub was in office, over protests by the citizens. Obama inherited the war, and things have gotten from bad to worse with some of the things our boys have done over there.
If I had command, we’d be encircling both Afghanistan & Iraq and letting them fight things out among themselves and only letting up when there’s one clear player in each to deal with.
jack75287 said, about 1 year ago
I want to leave to but I am afraid what will happen if we have to go back.
@Dr Who
Afghanistan in the 70 before the Russians came was its golden age it was doing great.
cjr53 said, about 1 year ago
It is still a huge waste of money and American lives. it is time to go. Bring our troops home. Reelect President Obama. At this time, who cares that our dumbest and worst president ever was in charge when the worst attack on America occurred? Who cares that the shrubster stopped looking for osama bin laden? Who cares shrubster and crew tilted the playing field so far to the right and in favor of the 1%? Are you personally reaping any of the benefits, or just a few already very rich?
1opinion said, about 1 year ago
@Dr Who
I would request you go and get some actual facts about history and societies, but I have seen what you use as sources.
Radish
said, about 1 year ago
Closing the exit would bring down the house of cards?
Profound cartoon.
PlainBill said, about 1 year ago
@zoidknight
OK, since you have opened the issue – Which of the countries being discussed have attacked us? Afghanistan harbored the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks. Iraq attacked a US ally (Kuwait) in 1990 and was ejected from Kuwait by a multinational force. Iran is sabre rattling and developing a nuclear program but is at least several years from posing a major threat. Syria has a repressive regime, but is not a threat to the US.
dtroutma
said, about 1 year ago
Pakistan, Iran, Bangladesh?, Burma?, Ethiopia?, Yemen?, Argentina?, Sudan?, Syria?, so many cards, so many possible targets, oh right, some are our “friends” now? Give Mitt or the chickenhawks a chance, they won’t be.
PlainBill said, about 1 year ago
@Radish
I interpret Payne as saying that the US exiting Afghanistan would pull down the house of cards. I feel that he is probably correct, but how long should we continue to prop up a corrupt government when the citizens don’t want us there?
Yes, if we exit Afghanistan and the government collapses the Republicans will blame Obama; if the government survives and the people prosper the Republicans will complain that we should have exited earlier, so who really cares what Republicans say?
HighPriestMikhal said, about 1 year ago
I just hope it doesn’t turn out like last time, when the CIA was lending STINGER missiles to aid the Afghani people against the Soviet Union. When the USSR pulled out, so did we, when they needed us the most to help establish a new government. The resulting power vacuum allowed Al-Qaeda to take over and sowed the seeds of that horrible day in 2001.