For Better or For Worse by Lynn Johnston

For Better or For Worse

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  1. Barry Carter

    Barry Carter said, over 3 years ago

    Not everyone who smokes gets cancer. We should research how some people can enjoy cigarettes safely, instead of telling everyone else to quit cigarettes. Our Puritanical mentality of self-denial blinds us to better solutions.

  2. thebird55

    thebird55 said, over 3 years ago

    Don’t wast your breath people. Those in denial are not going to hear you. There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.

  3. kittenpah

    kittenpah said, over 3 years ago


    Yeah, the filters make great earplugs!

  4. JanCinLV

    JanCinLV said, over 3 years ago

    @Barry Carter

    You are probably correct that not everyone who smokes gets cancer. That, however is nowhere near the whole story.
    1. Secondhand smoke is much worse than actually smoking, and the statistics prove just how deadly it is.
    2. Smokers stink.
    3. Cigarette filters take somewhere around 50 years to biodegrade, so smokers are polluting the environment with every casual toss of a but into the street.
    4. Smokers stink.
    5. Smoke yellows everything in a smoker’s house and ruins fabrics, carpets and paint.
    6. Did I mention that smokers stink?

  5. thebird55

    thebird55 said, over 3 years ago


    A smoker cannot know just how bad they stink. If they had any idea, they’d try much harder to quit.

  6. Downundergirl

    Downundergirl said, over 3 years ago

    funny, way back when, in the 70’s, almost everyone I knew smoked in the newsroom I worked in. All my friends smoked, family smoked. It was the norm – and no one noticed ‘smelling’ bad. Because everyone smoked! Then the smoking police cracked down, and almost everyone I know (including self) gave it up. Negative pressure was too great. Can’t smoke anywhere in public or even the beaches and they are talking about banning it in cars (how they police that I will never know) but anyhow, its too expensive (up to $25 a packet now) and it is just not PC and I feel better and SMELL better and can taste food.

    but heck, I admit it. I miss a cigarette with my scotch when I am out in a pub.

  7. thebird55

    thebird55 said, over 3 years ago

    Let me iterate: We ex-smokers tend to get quite militant.

  8. Barry Carter

    Barry Carter said, over 3 years ago


    1. Can you cite any reliable studies? I believe even Penn and Teller debunked secondhand smoke in one of their “Bulls*hit” programs.

    2,4,6. But less so than self-righteous people who want to tell others what to do.

    3. 50 years is actually a fairly short time, environmentally speaking. Things like Styrofoam™ take a lot longer. What about
    smokers who dispose of their cigarettes properly? Are you opposed to people who use other non-biodegradable material?

    5. Isn’t that a personal choice? Or do you also want to tell people how their houses should look?

    6. Did I mention that you stink?

  9. Jobecur

    Jobecur said, over 3 years ago

    Actually, smoking targets more than just the lungs. It also increases the risk of cancers such cervical, bladder, nasal-sinus, and brain. Also the kidneys, mouth, throat, larynx and esophagus, stomach, liver, bladder, and pancreas. Besides cancer there is also an increased risk of ischemic heart disease, with damaging effects on blood platelets … and the endothelium (tissues lining the heart, blood vessels, lymph vessels, etc.)

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  10. Nachikethass

    Nachikethass said, over 3 years ago

    I finally quit – after a dozen or more prior tries in 25 years – four years ago. Started to notice how much smoke stinks.

  11. Nabuquduriuzhur

    Nabuquduriuzhur said, over 3 years ago

    My dad once told me that people in the 1940s called cigarettes “coffin nails.” While they might not have studies to prove it then, people knew happened to long-term smokers.

  12. Downundergirl

    Downundergirl said, over 3 years ago

    dear Night Gaunt. I think you misread me. I have been ‘clean’ for over 30 years. I was making an observation about times and peer pressure. I stayed in that job long after I had quit and put up with the remaining smokers for many years – eventually it was banned in the building.

    get off your high horse.

  13. thebird55

    thebird55 said, over 3 years ago

    Considering the effect that even one breath of second hand smoke has on me, I don’t need even one study to know it is harmful. I may be more sensitive than most, but that stuff is clearly poison.

    I don’t mean to cut anyone, I would just like smokers to understand that they cannot smell themselves. I know, because I’ve been on that side of the fence. I was trying to shock a little, because that is what it takes for most people.

    And please don’t take this the wrong way, but that is a typical addict’s response.

  14. Barry Carter

    Barry Carter said, over 3 years ago


    Like dog poop, perfume, pollen, body odor, smog, dust, and
    many other substances, cigarette smoke may smell bad and/or
    make you cough/sneeze, but that doesn’t mean it’s “harmful”
    in the medical sense. Our nose can filter out quite a bit of
    “harmful” before it reaches our lungs.

    OK, so smokers smell bad to some people. Maybe they’re
    willing to pay that price to smoke. Maybe the people who
    think smokers smell bad aren’t worth knowing.

    And, please do take this the wrong way, but your response is
    a typical anti-American/anti-freedom response: claim that
    people who do things you don’t like are “addicts” and that
    they harm you, even when they don’t.

  15. afficionado  W M b

    afficionado W M b said, over 3 years ago


    I need a new coffin

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