Seems to me Mona made the right choice. Going back and around would waste too much time. Ditto dealing with the ideologue petitioner. Screaming Manic Guy is just a nuisance, not a threat.
@Night-Gaunt – One part of feminism that I don’t agree with is that it denies women the agency to disagree with “feminist” beliefs. I’m not a Palin supporter, but the way she’s been treated is nothing short of hypocritical. She’s been subjected to myriad sexist slurs, been forced out of office by dozens of bogus ethics violation accusations (one did seem to stick. Something like 29 were dismissed.) And the media then acted like she left office on a whim. If that had happened to a Democrat, we’d hear endless noise about a “climate of hate.” etc. Any “feminist” who doesn’t complain about Palin’s treatment has no right to complain when their own heroes are subjected to the same abuse.
@wiserd: Sorry, but I’m with Amy Poehler’s Hillary Clinton: “Although it is never sexist to question female politicians’ credentials. Please ask this one about dinosaurs.”
@Wyntre – I have no problem with checking credentials or arguments against Palin’s positions or her merits. Let them come hard and if they knock her out, so be it. That’s part of running for high office in a democracy. But google “Palin 3 invisible” and then see what kind of leftist backlash there is against this kind of junk. Seriously. I’ve heard some slanderous attacks against Palin’s person from the left that have been met with deafening silence from the left, which would have been categorized as misogyny in a heartbeat if they had been directed against Mrs. Clinton. And the nonsense about Trig being Bristol’s daughter is bogus on its face. Trig has downs, which is almost non-existant among young mothers and dramatically more common in older ones. If that was the only slander, I would hardly complain but these things are as legion as Obama Birtherism. But most significantly, “feminism” seems to include the notion that some women (like Ms. Palin) just can’t decide what’s good for themselves or moral, which is ridiculously patronizing. Palin has become a lightning rod for this kind of hypocrisy. NOW acts like they speak for all women, and barely condescends to dismiss dissent from conservative females.
Sisyphos almost 13 years ago
Seems to me Mona made the right choice. Going back and around would waste too much time. Ditto dealing with the ideologue petitioner. Screaming Manic Guy is just a nuisance, not a threat.
wiserd almost 13 years ago
@Night-Gaunt – One part of feminism that I don’t agree with is that it denies women the agency to disagree with “feminist” beliefs. I’m not a Palin supporter, but the way she’s been treated is nothing short of hypocritical. She’s been subjected to myriad sexist slurs, been forced out of office by dozens of bogus ethics violation accusations (one did seem to stick. Something like 29 were dismissed.) And the media then acted like she left office on a whim. If that had happened to a Democrat, we’d hear endless noise about a “climate of hate.” etc. Any “feminist” who doesn’t complain about Palin’s treatment has no right to complain when their own heroes are subjected to the same abuse.
littlejeff almost 13 years ago
Holy cow, you’re really a very scary guy, Ming, ol’ buddy!
ladywyntre almost 13 years ago
@wiserd: Sorry, but I’m with Amy Poehler’s Hillary Clinton: “Although it is never sexist to question female politicians’ credentials. Please ask this one about dinosaurs.”
wiserd almost 13 years ago
@Wyntre – I have no problem with checking credentials or arguments against Palin’s positions or her merits. Let them come hard and if they knock her out, so be it. That’s part of running for high office in a democracy. But google “Palin 3 invisible” and then see what kind of leftist backlash there is against this kind of junk. Seriously. I’ve heard some slanderous attacks against Palin’s person from the left that have been met with deafening silence from the left, which would have been categorized as misogyny in a heartbeat if they had been directed against Mrs. Clinton. And the nonsense about Trig being Bristol’s daughter is bogus on its face. Trig has downs, which is almost non-existant among young mothers and dramatically more common in older ones. If that was the only slander, I would hardly complain but these things are as legion as Obama Birtherism. But most significantly, “feminism” seems to include the notion that some women (like Ms. Palin) just can’t decide what’s good for themselves or moral, which is ridiculously patronizing. Palin has become a lightning rod for this kind of hypocrisy. NOW acts like they speak for all women, and barely condescends to dismiss dissent from conservative females.
Herrero over 12 years ago
“No hablo Ingles.”
wiserd over 12 years ago
p.s. I shouldn’t have said “non-existant.” The rate for Downs is 10x higher in older mothers.