Bush policies? It’s been established categorically not only that torture did not produce the right info to get OBL, but in fact provided false information — which we’ve known is true about torture for decades or more. John McCain, in an op-ed:I asked CIA Director Leon Panetta for the facts, and he told me the following: The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda. In fact, the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information.I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners … often produces bad intelligence because under torture a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear — true or false — if he believes it will relieve his suffering. Often, information provided to stop the torture is deliberately misleading.
Those were Bush’s exact words. He has no excuse. Obama cool as ice. Bush trying to find imaginary WMDs in Iraq and putting Bin Laden on the back burner.
petergrt about 13 years ago
0bama walks on water, again, . . . .or still.
Varnes about 13 years ago
Tru, dat…
Gypsy8 about 13 years ago
^Nothing as difficult to open as a closed mind.
charliekane about 13 years ago
One Efficient, Steely-Nerved, Multitasking, Black Ninja Gangsta President.
charliekane about 13 years ago
^Credit to Bill Maher.
Dtroutma about 13 years ago
Not a matter of “walking on water”, just getting us out of the mire and muck. Real leadership is letting the experts do their job.
oneoldhat about 13 years ago
and tell al quida all info you have so as to make it worthless
pirate227 about 13 years ago
Bush didn’t even talk the talk, while Obama walks the walk.
Motivemagus about 13 years ago
Bush policies? It’s been established categorically not only that torture did not produce the right info to get OBL, but in fact provided false information — which we’ve known is true about torture for decades or more. John McCain, in an op-ed:I asked CIA Director Leon Panetta for the facts, and he told me the following: The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda. In fact, the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information.I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners … often produces bad intelligence because under torture a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear — true or false — if he believes it will relieve his suffering. Often, information provided to stop the torture is deliberately misleading.
pirate227 about 13 years ago
It’s called reality, look into it.
ambrocity about 13 years ago
Those were Bush’s exact words. He has no excuse. Obama cool as ice. Bush trying to find imaginary WMDs in Iraq and putting Bin Laden on the back burner.
pirate227 about 13 years ago
Sorry Zit, those are W’s words and you saw what the result was, 9 more years of OBL.Swallow hard now.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 13 years ago
Uncurious George…