Rod Blagojevich: Congratulations, Senator Burris! Let me be the first to shake your hand. Ronald Burris: Why, thank you, governor - I am most honroed to accept...um... Punk: I'll go fetch the feathers. Tar baby.
Let’s see… A politician nobody knows is about to get the biggest political payoff he can dream of…and he’s the innocent dupe, the latest victim of the ”Madman” Blagojevich.
Last I saw, Burris is desperate to get back into politics, which explains why he would accept this clearly tainted position.
And acellist - don’t bet on it. Disney’s movie is pretty racist, and they’re rightfully wary about releasing it again. (I saw it a long time ago when I was just a kid, and even then I remember flinching at some of the live-action scenes.) If you check out eBay, you will find a few VHS videos, mostly without the tarbaby scene.
acellist - Yes, I agree that blacks wouldn’t have gotten much work otherwise, but that doesn’t mean we have to perpetuate it. The “fascination” you speak of was triggered by Gone with the Wind, which was a remarkable piece of nonsense as regards Southern culture, reinforcing the “but the slaves were happy ‘til those darned carpetbaggers came in” bushwah. Not to mention selling the myth that the Civil War was about states’ rights and not about slavery. We’re still getting that crud out of textbooks today, especially in the south (where I grew up). See Lies My Teacher Taught Me and Lies Across America. Wonderful books.
Sorry, acellist, wasn’t clear. I agree with the history, but I think the increase in fascination was attributable to GWTW, which was a massive blockbuster (and bestseller) in its day.
Funny how the Martha Mitchell Home in Atlanta keeps getting torched…
And DD - how did you get it to not bleep “D@mned?” It took out the word “cr@p” on me earlier!
danTheForth says:
DHLEAKYMaybe in that much-touted dictionary of yours you can find a definition for “ad hominem.”
–adjective
appealing to one’s prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one’s intellect or reason.
attacking an opponent’s character rather than answering his argument.
DD, sorry you misunderstood me, I thought I was supporting you. Just because a thousand jackasses fly the confederate flag, it still doesn’t make it right.
Especially since the so-called Confederate flag is actually based on the battle flag (and a naval ensign), which means it’s not symbolic of “Southern culture,” it’s symbolic of the Civil War fought to perpetuate slavery. Lovely.
oldlegodad- I know that that is the modern belief by advocates of the “Cause,” and I grew up in NC and am married to a a woman from a NC Scotch-Irish-some-Cherokee family. With all due respect to Webb, I think the historians disagree with him. Besides, it still doesn’t change my point. The modern myth is that the “Cause” was States’ Rights, and it wasn’t. The flag was the battle flag, meaning that regardless of its roots, it symbolized the War for Slavery. If they used one of the real (and rarely seen) Confederate flags, I might feel differently – there were three official ones, the first of which was very much like the standard US flag with fewer stripes.
motive, old71, “Born Fighting” is on the book shelf, a gift from my mother. Won’t go in to a looong rendition of detail. But she had the same argument with her sociology prof in th 40’s, her family was Scotch Irish. She maintained her stand till the day she died and she was well educated, Masters William and Mary with a major in education and minor in history.
Old71, Won’t argue about who shot john, ect, as there are characters in all walks of life. Mom’s argument was that the prof stated there wasn’t any thing as Scotch-Irish. Mom’s family came in from Scotland via Irland and landed in Charleston SC in the 1760’s. The family got started with a small drygoods shop but was burnt out because of support for the indepndence movement and fled to the Ohio Valley reigon.
NoFearPup over 15 years ago
Let’s see… A politician nobody knows is about to get the biggest political payoff he can dream of…and he’s the innocent dupe, the latest victim of the ”Madman” Blagojevich.
Motivemagus over 15 years ago
Last I saw, Burris is desperate to get back into politics, which explains why he would accept this clearly tainted position. And acellist - don’t bet on it. Disney’s movie is pretty racist, and they’re rightfully wary about releasing it again. (I saw it a long time ago when I was just a kid, and even then I remember flinching at some of the live-action scenes.) If you check out eBay, you will find a few VHS videos, mostly without the tarbaby scene.
claudermilk over 15 years ago
Man, someone’s got some serious anger & hate issues.
Motivemagus over 15 years ago
acellist - Yes, I agree that blacks wouldn’t have gotten much work otherwise, but that doesn’t mean we have to perpetuate it. The “fascination” you speak of was triggered by Gone with the Wind, which was a remarkable piece of nonsense as regards Southern culture, reinforcing the “but the slaves were happy ‘til those darned carpetbaggers came in” bushwah. Not to mention selling the myth that the Civil War was about states’ rights and not about slavery. We’re still getting that crud out of textbooks today, especially in the south (where I grew up). See Lies My Teacher Taught Me and Lies Across America. Wonderful books.
DALLASDAN over 15 years ago
They still fly that damned Confederate flag at 4th of July parades down here.
HUMPHRIES over 15 years ago
DD, just because a few thousnd jackasses do something doesn’t make it right.
DALLASDAN over 15 years ago
HUMPHRIES I’m saying it’s offensive to me to fly the flag of a nation that attacked us on our nation’s birthday.
TheGreatSatan over 15 years ago
“Does anybody know where to get a copy of Disney’s “Song of the South?””
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Motivemagus over 15 years ago
Sorry, acellist, wasn’t clear. I agree with the history, but I think the increase in fascination was attributable to GWTW, which was a massive blockbuster (and bestseller) in its day. Funny how the Martha Mitchell Home in Atlanta keeps getting torched…
And DD - how did you get it to not bleep “D@mned?” It took out the word “cr@p” on me earlier!
dhleaky over 15 years ago
oldlegodad71 says: That is not tar. it is excratment.
Again, buy a dictionary.
danTheForth over 15 years ago
DHLEAKY, Maybe in that much-touted dictionary of yours you can find a definition for “ad hominem.”
dhleaky over 15 years ago
danTheForth says: DHLEAKYMaybe in that much-touted dictionary of yours you can find a definition for “ad hominem.”
–adjective
appealing to one’s prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one’s intellect or reason. attacking an opponent’s character rather than answering his argument.That is our boy, Oldie.
DALLASDAN over 15 years ago
mm they have strange censorship rules here, they keep on bleeping d@rn.
HUMPHRIES over 15 years ago
DD, sorry you misunderstood me, I thought I was supporting you. Just because a thousand jackasses fly the confederate flag, it still doesn’t make it right.
DALLASDAN over 15 years ago
Yes Humphries hatred sorry heritage dies hard down here.
Motivemagus over 15 years ago
Especially since the so-called Confederate flag is actually based on the battle flag (and a naval ensign), which means it’s not symbolic of “Southern culture,” it’s symbolic of the Civil War fought to perpetuate slavery. Lovely.
Motivemagus over 15 years ago
oldlegodad- I know that that is the modern belief by advocates of the “Cause,” and I grew up in NC and am married to a a woman from a NC Scotch-Irish-some-Cherokee family. With all due respect to Webb, I think the historians disagree with him. Besides, it still doesn’t change my point. The modern myth is that the “Cause” was States’ Rights, and it wasn’t. The flag was the battle flag, meaning that regardless of its roots, it symbolized the War for Slavery. If they used one of the real (and rarely seen) Confederate flags, I might feel differently – there were three official ones, the first of which was very much like the standard US flag with fewer stripes.
HUMPHRIES over 15 years ago
motive, old71, “Born Fighting” is on the book shelf, a gift from my mother. Won’t go in to a looong rendition of detail. But she had the same argument with her sociology prof in th 40’s, her family was Scotch Irish. She maintained her stand till the day she died and she was well educated, Masters William and Mary with a major in education and minor in history.
HUMPHRIES over 15 years ago
Old71, Won’t argue about who shot john, ect, as there are characters in all walks of life. Mom’s argument was that the prof stated there wasn’t any thing as Scotch-Irish. Mom’s family came in from Scotland via Irland and landed in Charleston SC in the 1760’s. The family got started with a small drygoods shop but was burnt out because of support for the indepndence movement and fled to the Ohio Valley reigon.