I thought the Four Horsemen were Ric Flair,Arn Anderson,Barry Windham and Tully Blanchard(among many other incarnations)? Lio wants to be their mgr./valet?
psychlyst, the original four wer ric, arn, tully, and Ole anderson. Barry came after ole. But following your lead that would make Lio be James J. Dillon
“Conquest” is sometimes translated as “Pestilence”, and is considered equally valid by most scholars. However, remember that most of this is translated from the ancient Greek, so some think Death rides a “pale” horse and others say a “green” horse. Also remember these were people who knew absolutely nothing of science and thought someone with epilepsy was possessed by demons. I think it’s interesting, but hardly believable. I am constantly amazed at the modern-day people who firmly believe that 2000 year old primitive-minded societies were fully knowledgeable of the secrets of life and death (And Mark, War is a RED horse, and a great SWORD, not a spear)
“I am constantly amazed at the modern-day people who firmly believe that 2000 year old primitive-minded societies were fully knowledgeable of the secrets of life and death”
I am often amazed at modern-day people who think we’re more advanced than the ancients, who accomplished things we still can’t explain - e.g., the pyramids, mounds in the Western Hemisphere.
And I think Lio’s horse could be a little more intimidating.
Things must be really tough if Death needs to pick up a little walkin’ around money by doing some kid-care. Or maybe its the new Pre-School of the Apocalypse.
Things must be really tough if Death needs to pick up a little walkin’ around money by doing some kid-care. Or maybe its the new Pre-School of the Apocalypse.
By the way, Ushindi and Ji2m, it’s critical thinking (i.e. logical and rational thought free of bias or emotion) only if unbiased and supported with logical thought– it seems a small bit biased to me (correct me if wrong).
By the way, you said ‘these people knew absolutely nothing of science’ (I assume you mean the writers of the Bible).
Actually, the Bible contains quite a lot of science, including
A) the idea that the earth is suspended in space (while similar religions of the time believed it was held on the back of a giant turtle or supported on the shoulders of a demigod)– see Job 26:7
B) the idea that the earth is round, not flat (Proverbs 8:27, Isaiah 40:22)
C) descriptions of dinosaurs (creatures of whom fossils were not officially discovered until 1824)– see Job 40:15-40:1
D) the idea that there are many stars in ‘the heavens’, and that each star is unique (Genesis 22:17, Jeremiah 33:22, 1 Corinthians 15:31)
E) the circulation of the atmosphere, a complex idea not introduced until 1735 (Ecclesiastes 1:6)
F) rudimentary principles of fluid dynamics, most notably the fact that air has weight, an idea which was only proven about 300 years ago (Job 28:25)
G) simple descriptions of the hydrological cycle, as well as descriptions of water recirculation and condensation (Psalm 135:7, Jeremiah 10:13, Job 36:27-29, Ecclesiastes 1:7, Isaiah 55:10, Job 26:8, Job 37:11)
… among others.
Remember, it takes only one contrary example to upset a generalization. Don’t dismiss the Bible as ‘unscientific’ simply because you
a) don’t agree with it’s views
b) were unaware of these facts
c) both of the above
How much do you know of all there is to know? How much do I know of all there is to know? Put together, less than 1% of all there is to know. In that greater-than-99% of what we do not know, is it not possible there is a God?
Wow, I am impressed at how utterly the colorist fails–they obviously know nothing about the Four Horsemen. They didn’t even make War be red, which is the one people seem to be able to manage the most.
The horses ought to be (from left to right)
Pestilence / Conquest - white
War - red (he seems to have gotten the pale horse, which most people forget about, so that’s… something?)
Famine - black
and Death on the aforementioned pale (greenish!) horse.
Don’t ask me what color Lio’s horsie ought to be–“brown and magenta” probably suits him fine.
No, dont is posible a God there, God don’t exist. But people still believing in it just for tradition. Your example about “bible science” is wrong. This “science” that you tell, is just a interpretation about isolated and marginal quotes. The science is a compendium of experimentation and observation, nature dont need a God. Universe, neither.
Hey Mark,
great cartoon! I’ve got a CD tip for you, and for everyone here of course: the apocalypse oratiorio “Buch mit sieben Siegeln” by Austrian composer Franz Schmidt, with extended features of the four horsemen!
Relax, people. You can worship the Great Two-Headed Snake God if you want - and I don’t have to if I don’t want. Just don’t expect me to accept whichever particular God or religion you have picked, out of the many hundreds available, as the one true whatever. Nobody really KNOWS - belief is NOT the same as knowing. Personally, I think the Snake God is just as feasible as all the rest.
margueritem almost 15 years ago
Aw, Lio is joining the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse.
Sisyphos almost 15 years ago
Wow! The Five Horsemen of Lio’s Imagination! L to R: Pestilence, War, Famine, Death, and Lio!
ladywolf17 almost 15 years ago
So I see that death has his cloak back or maybe he had a spare. That’s a relief.
carmy almost 15 years ago
Yee haw!!
ejcapulet almost 15 years ago
War, Pestilence, and Famine don’t seem to mind, but Death seems a bit surprised.
Jml58 almost 15 years ago
I thouht the fifth horseman was ronnie soak.
deamonbite almost 15 years ago
not unreasonable to say that Lio is a agent of Kaos, or a Soak franchise
Dillithamir almost 15 years ago
Lio must be the silent but deadly horse….
bald almost 15 years ago
lio will soon be their leader … trust me
johndifool almost 15 years ago
Thought their names were Silas, Chronos, Caspian and Methos…
rmax4131 almost 15 years ago
I thought their names were Shell, Exxon, ConocoPhillips, Chevron and BP.
Thomas H Wolper almost 15 years ago
I’m glad Lio knows what he wants to be when he grows up.
carmy almost 15 years ago
Lio wants to join the posse.
splodie almost 15 years ago
In Revelation, the Four Horsemen are Conquest, War, Famine and Death. It looks like that is the lineup here.
Personally, I always attributed them to my sons. :)
psychlyst almost 15 years ago
I thought the Four Horsemen were Ric Flair,Arn Anderson,Barry Windham and Tully Blanchard(among many other incarnations)? Lio wants to be their mgr./valet?
Jofus13 almost 15 years ago
psychlyst, the original four wer ric, arn, tully, and Ole anderson. Barry came after ole. But following your lead that would make Lio be James J. Dillon
mstone78 almost 15 years ago
Aww…Lio is making new friends. He must have made Death bring him along on their next ride in order to get his clothes back. :)
dhubb almost 15 years ago
@JohnDiFool “Thought their names were Silas, Chronos, Caspian and Methos…”
I little bit too much Highlander? ;)
TapiocaHead almost 15 years ago
Mankind is in trouble
Quabaculta almost 15 years ago
Seems to me Conquest and War are the same. I grew up with Pestilance, War, Famine and Death.
Just my 10 plagues worth…. :-)
Ushindi almost 15 years ago
“Conquest” is sometimes translated as “Pestilence”, and is considered equally valid by most scholars. However, remember that most of this is translated from the ancient Greek, so some think Death rides a “pale” horse and others say a “green” horse. Also remember these were people who knew absolutely nothing of science and thought someone with epilepsy was possessed by demons. I think it’s interesting, but hardly believable. I am constantly amazed at the modern-day people who firmly believe that 2000 year old primitive-minded societies were fully knowledgeable of the secrets of life and death (And Mark, War is a RED horse, and a great SWORD, not a spear)
Kerovan almost 15 years ago
Pookid, Nothing I could say would match how funny your comment is. My hat’s off to you!
Jonathan Bridge Premium Member almost 15 years ago
The one horseboy of the apocalypse.
drifting almost 15 years ago
@pookid - nice!
But Ji2m & Bed Times ftw!
goooood almost 15 years ago
cool new friends, Lio
KingRat almost 15 years ago
And the fifth horseman rides a skin horse.
Dirty Dragon almost 15 years ago
And off they go - to pull a heel turn on Sting!
vawser almost 15 years ago
“I am constantly amazed at the modern-day people who firmly believe that 2000 year old primitive-minded societies were fully knowledgeable of the secrets of life and death”
I am often amazed at modern-day people who think we’re more advanced than the ancients, who accomplished things we still can’t explain - e.g., the pyramids, mounds in the Western Hemisphere.
And I think Lio’s horse could be a little more intimidating.
jestrfyl almost 15 years ago
Things must be really tough if Death needs to pick up a little walkin’ around money by doing some kid-care. Or maybe its the new Pre-School of the Apocalypse.
jestrfyl almost 15 years ago
Things must be really tough if Death needs to pick up a little walkin’ around money by doing some kid-care. Or maybe its the new Pre-School of the Apocalypse.
orionsdaughter almost 15 years ago
I’m with you, vawser.
By the way, Ushindi and Ji2m, it’s critical thinking (i.e. logical and rational thought free of bias or emotion) only if unbiased and supported with logical thought– it seems a small bit biased to me (correct me if wrong).
By the way, you said ‘these people knew absolutely nothing of science’ (I assume you mean the writers of the Bible). Actually, the Bible contains quite a lot of science, including
A) the idea that the earth is suspended in space (while similar religions of the time believed it was held on the back of a giant turtle or supported on the shoulders of a demigod)– see Job 26:7
B) the idea that the earth is round, not flat (Proverbs 8:27, Isaiah 40:22)
C) descriptions of dinosaurs (creatures of whom fossils were not officially discovered until 1824)– see Job 40:15-40:1
D) the idea that there are many stars in ‘the heavens’, and that each star is unique (Genesis 22:17, Jeremiah 33:22, 1 Corinthians 15:31)
E) the circulation of the atmosphere, a complex idea not introduced until 1735 (Ecclesiastes 1:6)
F) rudimentary principles of fluid dynamics, most notably the fact that air has weight, an idea which was only proven about 300 years ago (Job 28:25)
G) simple descriptions of the hydrological cycle, as well as descriptions of water recirculation and condensation (Psalm 135:7, Jeremiah 10:13, Job 36:27-29, Ecclesiastes 1:7, Isaiah 55:10, Job 26:8, Job 37:11)
… among others.
Remember, it takes only one contrary example to upset a generalization. Don’t dismiss the Bible as ‘unscientific’ simply because you a) don’t agree with it’s views b) were unaware of these facts c) both of the above
How much do you know of all there is to know? How much do I know of all there is to know? Put together, less than 1% of all there is to know. In that greater-than-99% of what we do not know, is it not possible there is a God?
Pavadece almost 15 years ago
Wow, I am impressed at how utterly the colorist fails–they obviously know nothing about the Four Horsemen. They didn’t even make War be red, which is the one people seem to be able to manage the most. The horses ought to be (from left to right) Pestilence / Conquest - white War - red (he seems to have gotten the pale horse, which most people forget about, so that’s… something?) Famine - black and Death on the aforementioned pale (greenish!) horse.
Don’t ask me what color Lio’s horsie ought to be–“brown and magenta” probably suits him fine.
caucel almost 15 years ago
No, dont is posible a God there, God don’t exist. But people still believing in it just for tradition. Your example about “bible science” is wrong. This “science” that you tell, is just a interpretation about isolated and marginal quotes. The science is a compendium of experimentation and observation, nature dont need a God. Universe, neither.
cvdwoest almost 15 years ago
Hey Mark, great cartoon! I’ve got a CD tip for you, and for everyone here of course: the apocalypse oratiorio “Buch mit sieben Siegeln” by Austrian composer Franz Schmidt, with extended features of the four horsemen!
teeterman almost 15 years ago
caucel-You are a moron
Ushindi almost 15 years ago
Relax, people. You can worship the Great Two-Headed Snake God if you want - and I don’t have to if I don’t want. Just don’t expect me to accept whichever particular God or religion you have picked, out of the many hundreds available, as the one true whatever. Nobody really KNOWS - belief is NOT the same as knowing. Personally, I think the Snake God is just as feasible as all the rest.
Ushindi almost 15 years ago
Sorry, sorry, sorry! I swore I would no longer comment on religion or politics, only on the comics themselves. I WILL do better, I will!
Me_Again about 14 years ago
Death is just surprised to see one of his friends there.
sadiedog about 11 years ago
If Lio had been around in ancient times, I think he would be one of the horsemen.