Jeez, what a moron. The aim is to reduce the rate at which the climate is deteriorating, not change it back. If we can reduce the rate at which we are pumping carbon into the atmosphere, hopefully the climate can correct itself, but that could take a century or more. Stop eating the seed corn now if you expect to eat in the future.
Almost all of those workers would have had short temporary gig jobs on that pipeline – they just move on to different short temporary gig jobs elsewhere… they just have to do move on now instead of some months from now.
There are now 26.8 million workers—15.8% of the workforce—who are either unemployed or otherwise out of work because of tRump and the repugs denial, incompetence and mishandling of the virus pandemic.
To get the economy back on track in a reasonable time frame, we need policymakers to pass additional fiscal support.
Essential as a big economic boost is, repug resistance to President Biden’s $1.9 trillion survival plan will be vigorous and callous.
Green policies are about creating jobs now and for the future but assbackward regressives are holding up progress to serve their owners.
Lester lying again. It wasn’t 11k gas and oil workers, it was 11k temporary iron workers to build the pipe line. Iron workers that will have no problem finding work building other projects. The piipe would only be about 50 permanent workers.
Wow Biden apparently strong armed General Motors, or did GM decide this on their own due to market pressures?
General Motors to eliminate gasoline and diesel light-duty cars and SUVs by 2035https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/01/28/general-motors-electric/
Too dumb to find a re-training program probably IS too dumb to hold down a good job, right? I worked full time building houses until the economy tanked. Then I went to school, and worked full time at a startup… and another startup… and a niche business… and Mozilla… and another startup… and Disney. Then I retired. Full time, aside from a few weeks between jobs, and a few weeks of vacation when working at places that had the option. Yeah, I’m male and white. And willing to work at half what I was making…
Those were potential, theoretical temporary jobs. Actually the U.S. government predicted 2,000 jobs that last for at least two years. And after construction is done, the whole pipeline will only employ 50 people total. Oh, and it will also cause massive direct damage to the local environment, and of course encourage further consumption of fossil fuels, which we should be reducing. In terms of protecting our environment so that we have safe water, and in terms of stopping climate change (not causing it, as Mr. Lester suggests), Biden did the right thing here.
Back in the very early sixties, I had a job as a slitter operator. The machine took giant rolls of card stock and cut them into narrow rolls which would go on to be printed and cut as computer punch cards. Though I left the job to take a same-pay job at Sears that didn’t risk body parts, I would have been out of a job as computer technology took hold. Oh – and fossil fuel jobs are among the most dangerous in America.
Don’t forget the buggy whip workers. I’ve begun to believe others who assert that Lester is stupid, stupidity being the willing embrace of ignorance. I think Lester’s stupidity is not that he thinks the O&G workers and the climate change he portrays in his cartoon are possible or probable. Lester’s stupidity is that he does not understand the depth, breadth, and width of the problems confronting our nation. He thinks it’s just more of the same old political conflict; superficial, but solvable. That’s his stupidity. He REALLY doesn’t appreciate the stakes and the GOP Leadershit’s goals and he’s not alone. If the GOP Leadershit succeeds, we will be America in name only. It’s an inevitable clash between the GOP Leadershit/1% and true patriots.
The comments here are a prime example of why Rush Limbaugh has the callers screened heavily. He, like Mr. Lester, simply cannot stand up to actual facts presented by listeners/readers that clearly and easily refutes their position.
All of that shale oil cost or waste three barrels for every barrel extract. That is before we mention. The huge area of the countryside that is now a toxic wasteland.
Right now the oil is transported via rail. The creation of the pipeline will destroy thousands of railroad jobs.
How about the fact that the bulk were temporary jobs, and that promoting other types of energy will create more jobs. Oh wait, that doesn’t fit the tRumplican BS narrative. Never mind.
I worked in the oil industry in Calgary for decades (engineering drafting), starting in the 70s, and went through numerous layoffs as oil prices fluctuated. This is typical of resource based industries.
Any oil patch worker who thinks they’ve got a steady job for years is either delusional or a newbie. We could always spot the latter because they’d run out and buy an expensive new vehicle, designer clothes, and other luxuries. They couldn’t understand why those of us who’d spent our entire lives in an oil & gas city drove second hand cars and lived in modest houses.
A pipe line project like Keystone is only good for about 3 years of job creation at most. First you have the design phase where engineers and drafters are hired in droves, then they start letting a lot of them go as the construction phase comes on stream and the pipe mills, pipe fitters, and construction crews get to work. Then that phase ends as the pipeline comes on line and you’ve got maybe 50 permanent jobs, tops, for keeping it running.
Retired engineer over 3 years ago
Jeez, what a moron. The aim is to reduce the rate at which the climate is deteriorating, not change it back. If we can reduce the rate at which we are pumping carbon into the atmosphere, hopefully the climate can correct itself, but that could take a century or more. Stop eating the seed corn now if you expect to eat in the future.
ferddo over 3 years ago
Almost all of those workers would have had short temporary gig jobs on that pipeline – they just move on to different short temporary gig jobs elsewhere… they just have to do move on now instead of some months from now.
dotbup over 3 years ago
There are now 26.8 million workers—15.8% of the workforce—who are either unemployed or otherwise out of work because of tRump and the repugs denial, incompetence and mishandling of the virus pandemic.
To get the economy back on track in a reasonable time frame, we need policymakers to pass additional fiscal support.
Essential as a big economic boost is, repug resistance to President Biden’s $1.9 trillion survival plan will be vigorous and callous.
Green policies are about creating jobs now and for the future but assbackward regressives are holding up progress to serve their owners.
Vidrinath Premium Member over 3 years ago
“The government shouldn’t pick winners and losers!”
Like the last 4 years when the government picked coal! Oh wait.
Like the last 4 years when the government picked a hotel! Oh wait
Like the last 4 years when the government bailed out farmers! Oh wait
braindead Premium Member over 3 years ago
Wow, Trump Disciple Lester is somehow worried about homeless people?
Or is he instead AGAIN worried that patriotic multinational oil companies are not making enough money even though many of them pay NO taxes?
And he is just using homelessness as a prop to LIE about the effects of cancelling the pipeline?
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It continues to astound why extreme right wingers fight like hell for more money for the rich.
And why they love to increase wealth inequality.
.
#TraitorTrump
Kurtass Premium Member over 3 years ago
Lester lying again. It wasn’t 11k gas and oil workers, it was 11k temporary iron workers to build the pipe line. Iron workers that will have no problem finding work building other projects. The piipe would only be about 50 permanent workers.
Tralfaz Premium Member over 3 years ago
Wow Biden apparently strong armed General Motors, or did GM decide this on their own due to market pressures?
General Motors to eliminate gasoline and diesel light-duty cars and SUVs by 2035https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/01/28/general-motors-electric/
Concretionist over 3 years ago
Too dumb to find a re-training program probably IS too dumb to hold down a good job, right? I worked full time building houses until the economy tanked. Then I went to school, and worked full time at a startup… and another startup… and a niche business… and Mozilla… and another startup… and Disney. Then I retired. Full time, aside from a few weeks between jobs, and a few weeks of vacation when working at places that had the option. Yeah, I’m male and white. And willing to work at half what I was making…
VadimUzdensky1 over 3 years ago
Those were potential, theoretical temporary jobs. Actually the U.S. government predicted 2,000 jobs that last for at least two years. And after construction is done, the whole pipeline will only employ 50 people total. Oh, and it will also cause massive direct damage to the local environment, and of course encourage further consumption of fossil fuels, which we should be reducing. In terms of protecting our environment so that we have safe water, and in terms of stopping climate change (not causing it, as Mr. Lester suggests), Biden did the right thing here.
melangley Premium Member over 3 years ago
I wonder what the backsmiths and stable grooms are doing now?
pc368dude over 3 years ago
Back in the very early sixties, I had a job as a slitter operator. The machine took giant rolls of card stock and cut them into narrow rolls which would go on to be printed and cut as computer punch cards. Though I left the job to take a same-pay job at Sears that didn’t risk body parts, I would have been out of a job as computer technology took hold. Oh – and fossil fuel jobs are among the most dangerous in America.
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 3 years ago
Progress is one thing…Kerry is a 1 per center who speaks with a fork tongue!
cocavan11 over 3 years ago
Don’t forget the buggy whip workers. I’ve begun to believe others who assert that Lester is stupid, stupidity being the willing embrace of ignorance. I think Lester’s stupidity is not that he thinks the O&G workers and the climate change he portrays in his cartoon are possible or probable. Lester’s stupidity is that he does not understand the depth, breadth, and width of the problems confronting our nation. He thinks it’s just more of the same old political conflict; superficial, but solvable. That’s his stupidity. He REALLY doesn’t appreciate the stakes and the GOP Leadershit’s goals and he’s not alone. If the GOP Leadershit succeeds, we will be America in name only. It’s an inevitable clash between the GOP Leadershit/1% and true patriots.
hooglah over 3 years ago
It’s called “mother nature” ass holes.
rmfrye Premium Member over 3 years ago
Really Mike?
Li'l Dale over 3 years ago
They shouldn’t have invested their wad in GameStore
Li'l Dale over 3 years ago
GameStop investors??
359mxn over 3 years ago
I blame it on the carriage mavens.
Dr. Silly over 3 years ago
The comments here are a prime example of why Rush Limbaugh has the callers screened heavily. He, like Mr. Lester, simply cannot stand up to actual facts presented by listeners/readers that clearly and easily refutes their position.
jhayesd31 over 3 years ago
All of that shale oil cost or waste three barrels for every barrel extract. That is before we mention. The huge area of the countryside that is now a toxic wasteland.
Right now the oil is transported via rail. The creation of the pipeline will destroy thousands of railroad jobs.
Economic costs are always unpredictable
rmfrye Premium Member over 3 years ago
How about the fact that the bulk were temporary jobs, and that promoting other types of energy will create more jobs. Oh wait, that doesn’t fit the tRumplican BS narrative. Never mind.
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 3 years ago
Come on, man! You know what John Kerry said, “Make better choices.” Come on, man!
saanderson2 over 3 years ago
Mike Lester is right on target !
Nuliajuk over 3 years ago
I worked in the oil industry in Calgary for decades (engineering drafting), starting in the 70s, and went through numerous layoffs as oil prices fluctuated. This is typical of resource based industries.
Any oil patch worker who thinks they’ve got a steady job for years is either delusional or a newbie. We could always spot the latter because they’d run out and buy an expensive new vehicle, designer clothes, and other luxuries. They couldn’t understand why those of us who’d spent our entire lives in an oil & gas city drove second hand cars and lived in modest houses.
A pipe line project like Keystone is only good for about 3 years of job creation at most. First you have the design phase where engineers and drafters are hired in droves, then they start letting a lot of them go as the construction phase comes on stream and the pipe mills, pipe fitters, and construction crews get to work. Then that phase ends as the pipeline comes on line and you’ve got maybe 50 permanent jobs, tops, for keeping it running.