OK…open season on teachers has got to stop…if you don’t like everything they earn or they get paid, then get off your dead butt and try and teach…under the conditions most have to work with…interesting angle the comic is taking…but those administrators probably couldn’t teach anything…and if the teachers go…their fat butts will be the only ones left…
C’mon, Papamac … you’re presuming that the haters have common sense. Serious mistake. The Economist was exactly right when they said that Americans were the world champions in demanding services for which they then have no intention of paying.
Who is that in P3? Gil? A student? Why was he sleeping at 1:12 in the afternoon? Or worse, why is Al-Jo calling him at 1:12 in the morning? If it’s the am I’m afraid to ask what she’s calling for.
I think it is time for some folks to come off the teachers are beyond any criticism meme. We don’t do this for our claims adjusters, nursing home workers, or accountants.
First, for the most part, it is the teacher’s union that people criticize, not the teachers themselves. There are teachers that people like and those that they don’t like.
Second, the author obviously thinks very little of those who criticize the union, because the chief and isolated spokesperson for the “teabaggers” as some “hater” put it is Hobart, a two-dimensional douche bag. Who likes Hobart? Better yet, who knows anyone like him.
Third, teachers… like it or not… have great benefits. Defined benefit pensions, long summers off, shorter “business hours”, decent salaries in suburban districts and high school levels, and union mandated times away from their “customers”. No one in the private sector has these perks. Sure, you are not going to get CEO rich as a teacher, but you are not going to be uncomfortable. Full retirement available in their 50’s.
Yet, we need to keep hearing the constant “if you question the teacher benefits, then you hate teachers.” Signs at rallies that say “have you hugged your teacher today”. Come on, the guy working at Jiffy Lube needs a hug too.
Are teachers jobs hard? Sure… they can be. Do some of their student’s parents not send them with lunches some days… sure, some parents make mistakes. Guess what… jobs in the private sector are hard too, and customers and fellow workers can do crap that forces me to spend my own out of pocket money as well.
All that said, this storyline is better than Javis White’s dad’s drug bust and Neil Cray’s death combined.
A teacher told students at my kids’ school that he wasn’t going to bother teaching them because they were, “too stupid to learn”. It was okay though because he had tenure and didn’t have to worry about his job because the union would support him.
long summers off: – getting shorter as states/feds require more days/hours in a school year not to mention taking (and paying for) classes to keep your certification
shorter “business hours” : most teachers work 7am to 3pm (or comparable) teaching and this does not include off hours prep/grading time
decent salaries in suburban districts and high school levels, and union mandated times away from their “customers”.: Most school districts that I know of do not pay high school teachers any more than any other teacher. I assume you are talking about “planning time” with you say “time away from customers”. This is often taken up with communication with parents/set-up/meetings and still teachers have a lot of their own “homework” to do to get ready for the nexst day.
" No one in the private sector has these perks. Sure, you are not going to get CEO rich as a teacher, but you are not going to be uncomfortable. Full retirement available in their 50’s.: " Sure there are perks, as in any job. Do I complain about anyone else’s? Last I checked any job (corporate/public) is open within reason. You just need the qualifications/education to get it. If you want teacher’s benefits (which they have often given up salary to keep) then go to school to become one! BTW-the full retirement in the 50’s is after 30 years of service (what most industries require).
Cliff1911 almost 13 years ago
Good old Gil takes a phone call in the middle of a Mimi backrub.
kdizzle almost 13 years ago
That’s Jeff Karoub in P3, I recognize the bald spot. Looks like trouble for Al-Jo’s fat cat mother and her humongous pension.
papamac630 almost 13 years ago
OK…open season on teachers has got to stop…if you don’t like everything they earn or they get paid, then get off your dead butt and try and teach…under the conditions most have to work with…interesting angle the comic is taking…but those administrators probably couldn’t teach anything…and if the teachers go…their fat butts will be the only ones left…
Ravenswing almost 13 years ago
C’mon, Papamac … you’re presuming that the haters have common sense. Serious mistake. The Economist was exactly right when they said that Americans were the world champions in demanding services for which they then have no intention of paying.
doublepaw almost 13 years ago
Milford Tea Party is rabble rousing the good citizens of this fair city.
Mopman almost 13 years ago
Who is that in P3? Gil? A student? Why was he sleeping at 1:12 in the afternoon? Or worse, why is Al-Jo calling him at 1:12 in the morning? If it’s the am I’m afraid to ask what she’s calling for.
tedybgame almost 13 years ago
This is where Al-Jo starts her student protest against the administration.
bearwku82 almost 13 years ago
When you are no longer productive in sales, they move you to management. Most school boards have too many chiefs and not enough indians.
miffedmax almost 13 years ago
I bet there’s a copy of “The Anarchist’s Cookbook” on that bookshelf. The Milford School Board just messed with the wrong ex-hippie.
Cliff1911 almost 13 years ago
I guess we could tell if that’s Gil if he was holding a coffee mug that reads “Gil.”
Kazbot almost 13 years ago
I think it is time for some folks to come off the teachers are beyond any criticism meme. We don’t do this for our claims adjusters, nursing home workers, or accountants.
First, for the most part, it is the teacher’s union that people criticize, not the teachers themselves. There are teachers that people like and those that they don’t like.
Second, the author obviously thinks very little of those who criticize the union, because the chief and isolated spokesperson for the “teabaggers” as some “hater” put it is Hobart, a two-dimensional douche bag. Who likes Hobart? Better yet, who knows anyone like him.
Third, teachers… like it or not… have great benefits. Defined benefit pensions, long summers off, shorter “business hours”, decent salaries in suburban districts and high school levels, and union mandated times away from their “customers”. No one in the private sector has these perks. Sure, you are not going to get CEO rich as a teacher, but you are not going to be uncomfortable. Full retirement available in their 50’s.
Yet, we need to keep hearing the constant “if you question the teacher benefits, then you hate teachers.” Signs at rallies that say “have you hugged your teacher today”. Come on, the guy working at Jiffy Lube needs a hug too.
Are teachers jobs hard? Sure… they can be. Do some of their student’s parents not send them with lunches some days… sure, some parents make mistakes. Guess what… jobs in the private sector are hard too, and customers and fellow workers can do crap that forces me to spend my own out of pocket money as well.
All that said, this storyline is better than Javis White’s dad’s drug bust and Neil Cray’s death combined.
Davison77 almost 13 years ago
A teacher told students at my kids’ school that he wasn’t going to bother teaching them because they were, “too stupid to learn”. It was okay though because he had tenure and didn’t have to worry about his job because the union would support him.
doublepaw almost 13 years ago
Where would any of us be without good teachers? Well, some of you are there, you know who you are.
jalthomas almost 13 years ago
@ Uncle Kaz:
long summers off: – getting shorter as states/feds require more days/hours in a school year not to mention taking (and paying for) classes to keep your certification
shorter “business hours” : most teachers work 7am to 3pm (or comparable) teaching and this does not include off hours prep/grading time
decent salaries in suburban districts and high school levels, and union mandated times away from their “customers”.: Most school districts that I know of do not pay high school teachers any more than any other teacher. I assume you are talking about “planning time” with you say “time away from customers”. This is often taken up with communication with parents/set-up/meetings and still teachers have a lot of their own “homework” to do to get ready for the nexst day.
" No one in the private sector has these perks. Sure, you are not going to get CEO rich as a teacher, but you are not going to be uncomfortable. Full retirement available in their 50’s.: " Sure there are perks, as in any job. Do I complain about anyone else’s? Last I checked any job (corporate/public) is open within reason. You just need the qualifications/education to get it. If you want teacher’s benefits (which they have often given up salary to keep) then go to school to become one! BTW-the full retirement in the 50’s is after 30 years of service (what most industries require).