…Carl Sagan’s greatest achievement was that he was the “house” astronomer for the Johnny Carson Show. He was a great entertainer, not so great as a theoretical scientist. His desperate attempts to attack Velikovsky resulted in his ill conceived theory of an accelerated Greenhouse effect (as an explanation for the anomalous heat of Venus). This flawed theory has been the mainstream mantra for over 40 years. That in itself is amazing, as Velikovsky debunked the theory with one sentence and I paraphrase…it defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics. The Venus Greenhouse is wholly inadequate to help understand what is happening on Venus.
The best theory to explain the heat of Venus is unpalatable to mainstream because of the implications that go with it, not the theory’s explanatory merits. Venus is hot. It is radiating heat from its interior. The implication being, of course, that Venus has an entirely different history and age, when compared to the Earth.
Re: “His desperate attempts to attack Velikovsky resulted in his ill conceived theory of an accelerated Greenhouse effect (as an explanation for the anomalous heat of Venus).”
…[in] talking to climate change advocates online on this particular history [the author has] observed that there is zero awareness of this first “trial run” for the model.
Nobody anywhere knows that the DATASET WAS CORRECTED.
Nobody knows that the Venus Pioneer mission returned back CONFIRMATION FOR VELIKOVSKY.
Nobody even knows that the Venus Pioneer mission was sent there to create evidence for the greenhouse effect.
Nobody knows even that Velikovsky correctly deduced that Venus should be hot based upon ancient documents.
Nobody as well knows that the Vega missions CONFIRMED the uncorrected Venus Pioneer results.
You know, we’d be wise to think deeply about all of that.
All of these facts can be traced back to sources. Every part of this can be verified.
And yet, the climate change community is completely oblivious to these crucial points.
You’ve got this amazing sequence of historical events with this story that directly relates to this very hot, current issue of climate change — and nobody knows anything about this history.
You’ve got this peculiar situation with all of these worldwide, ancient references to Venus as a comet. Again, virtually no awareness.
Yeah, If I want to have my teeth worked on, I go ask a plumber to do it.
Immanuel Velikovsky (1895–1979) was a Russian psychiatrist.
“Velikovsky debunked the theory with one sentence and I paraphrase…it defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics.”
^Yeah, you really need a citation here.
You wanted to discredit the Greenhouse affect, so you went to biologist Prof. Nasif Nahle.
Do you have any sources that are actual Climate, Physics, or otherwise qualified by experience, study, and Degree?
Difficulty: Fox “News”, Breitbart, your or your friends’ blog, Far Right / Conspiracy (rationalization) ‘theory’ sites will get you laughed at, insulted, and dismissed as an intellectual featherweight.
BE THIS GUY over 6 years ago
Did it ever have life?
Argythree over 6 years ago
After reading this ‘toon, I’m not sure EARTH has life. (INTELLIGENT life, I mean…)
blunebottle over 6 years ago
And here, I though Rudy actually knew something about science.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 6 years ago
^^Venus has an atmosphere 100 times more dense than earth. It IS an example of global warming.
blunebottle over 6 years ago
Nobody Knows About Venus
…Carl Sagan’s greatest achievement was that he was the “house” astronomer for the Johnny Carson Show. He was a great entertainer, not so great as a theoretical scientist. His desperate attempts to attack Velikovsky resulted in his ill conceived theory of an accelerated Greenhouse effect (as an explanation for the anomalous heat of Venus). This flawed theory has been the mainstream mantra for over 40 years. That in itself is amazing, as Velikovsky debunked the theory with one sentence and I paraphrase…it defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics. The Venus Greenhouse is wholly inadequate to help understand what is happening on Venus.
The best theory to explain the heat of Venus is unpalatable to mainstream because of the implications that go with it, not the theory’s explanatory merits. Venus is hot. It is radiating heat from its interior. The implication being, of course, that Venus has an entirely different history and age, when compared to the Earth.
Re: “His desperate attempts to attack Velikovsky resulted in his ill conceived theory of an accelerated Greenhouse effect (as an explanation for the anomalous heat of Venus).”
…[in] talking to climate change advocates online on this particular history [the author has] observed that there is zero awareness of this first “trial run” for the model.
Nobody anywhere knows that the DATASET WAS CORRECTED.
Nobody knows that the Venus Pioneer mission returned back CONFIRMATION FOR VELIKOVSKY.
Nobody even knows that the Venus Pioneer mission was sent there to create evidence for the greenhouse effect.
Nobody knows even that Velikovsky correctly deduced that Venus should be hot based upon ancient documents.
Nobody as well knows that the Vega missions CONFIRMED the uncorrected Venus Pioneer results.
You know, we’d be wise to think deeply about all of that.
All of these facts can be traced back to sources. Every part of this can be verified.
blunebottle over 6 years ago
(Continued)
And yet, the climate change community is completely oblivious to these crucial points.
You’ve got this amazing sequence of historical events with this story that directly relates to this very hot, current issue of climate change — and nobody knows anything about this history.
You’ve got this peculiar situation with all of these worldwide, ancient references to Venus as a comet. Again, virtually no awareness.
Nobody knows it. (yet it’s extremely relevant).
blunebottle over 6 years ago
Scientific Refutation of Greenhouse Effect:
http://principia-scientific.org/publications/Experiment_on_Greenhouse_Effect.pdf
Silly Season over 6 years ago
Yeah, If I want to have my teeth worked on, I go ask a plumber to do it.
Immanuel Velikovsky (1895–1979) was a Russian psychiatrist.
“Velikovsky debunked the theory with one sentence and I paraphrase…it defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics.”
^Yeah, you really need a citation here.
You wanted to discredit the Greenhouse affect, so you went to biologist Prof. Nasif Nahle.
Do you have any sources that are actual Climate, Physics, or otherwise qualified by experience, study, and Degree?
Difficulty: Fox “News”, Breitbart, your or your friends’ blog, Far Right / Conspiracy (rationalization) ‘theory’ sites will get you laughed at, insulted, and dismissed as an intellectual featherweight.