Michael Ramirez for September 23, 2016

That would solve the whole “problem”.. Too simple for these times though…

Why didn’t that apply when that white cowboy militia member was shot by the cops when he tried to run that road block? And there was no question about him being armed.

Yeah Right…. As If a Black man’s Hands are UP isn’t Cooperating…. Are you Serious???? Really!!!!!

I gave up on commenting on Ramirez because of toons like this one. My comments would not be polite.

A violent protest only hurts more innocent people. The cops do need some serious re-training and psych filtering to serve and protect without emptying their clips as a perp.

Chev James007:

No Chev, not true…how can people be so blind to look at things as BLACK AND WHITE ONLY? (no pun intended). There are good cops and there are bad cops, there are a lot of good black people and some bad black people….now put them in a box and mix them up….sit back and watch what happens.

Outstanding cartoon! My sentiments exactly!

No one is perfect, but this time Michael has a valid point. We are supposed to be a law and order society. We train a police force to enforce those laws. When a trained officer suspects that a law is broken, we give him the right to investigate. It is a civic duty to obey the commands of the officer. You should do as told. Not turn your back and walk away. You have plenty of opportunity to explain your action later. Many of the recent cases of police shootings were the result of simple ignorance and disrespect of the initial demands b an officer.I am not trying to defend police shootings. They should be a last resort. But a certain respect for police orders would greatly reduce the number of these incidences.

Everyone who is for the second amendment for making sure their government is not tyrannical seems to agree that you should just do what the cops say. So why are you collecting guns if you are just going to everything the police say? How many more innocent, unarmed people have to be shot during traffic stops and die mysteriously inside jail cells before it is tyrannical enough for you to bring out your arsenal?I recently had a traffic stop go very wrong when the officer discovered I was doing nothing wrong. He got very upset and was screaming at me (as if I was wasting HIS time) I considered myself extremely lucky (privileged one might say) to be white as I was shocked by what was happening. I did comply ( I was scared out of my mind) and I was not physically touched, but I was threatened and was made to feel the fear of the authoritarian. But my question is why should that even be allowed? And your answer is to just do what these bullies tell you?

Just because your hands are up you and not go back to your car and try to get in or reach for some thing

OH, Charlie, how wrong you are! Women on a police force are far better at resolving issues without violence. Naturally, due to sexual dimorphism, you need men as police. That is a physical fact. But women can make great cops. They project their force differently, making policing with women often a better tactic when managing citizen-police interactions.

The police hiring filters have definitely fallen apart. The latest with the woman cop shooting the guy with his arms up and standing by the side of his van definitely shows ONE of the big problems, Hiring people that are not fit for the job. Just guessing, but she probably looked at a large black man and was very scared and then when he didn’t respond to her shouted commands it put her more on edge, so when she thought he was reaching into the van, WHICH HE WAS’NT, she tripped off line and shot him. This person should never have been let into the school and definitely never given a gun. Must be some way to gleen out people that aren’t fit to be a police officer.

you mean the guy whose car broke down and the police has zero!!!! reason to suspect of being dangerous. Among the other BS excuses coming from the police.

and so Ramirez is saying that not doing everything a police officer tells you to do is a capitol offense punishable by death — and the police get to be judge, jury, and executioner. And zero oversight or accountability. Isn’t he conservative and thinks the government is incompetent? last time i checked, the police were part of the government.

second time this year a man gets shot – hands clearly raised.

Maybe police need to cooperate with the community instead of being a parasite.

You want to complain about crime, maybe you should put those wells fargo thieves in jail first – then you would have the credibility to make statements about police budget being justified by the reduced level of crime… that crime still happened and police still got a big pay increase.

@Charlie555Never had any experience with female cops, but would like to see height requirements brought back for males, at least the ones who do traffic citations, short cops are on a power trip and will take it out on you, the guys I went to HS with who became cops were short and extremely wimpy, think they like iron on the hip and the power to lord it over and sometimes even murder “the bad dudes” who bullied them in school

So what can we do when cooperating with the police still results in extrajudicial executions? What can we do all-knowing white people? How do we keep from getting shot at traffic stops when the actions the police are demanding are what is being used as a reason to shoot?

Cooperate and put your hands up higher as you are being shot.Racist Trump wants to start the unconstitutional Stop and Frisk program to help certain neighborhoods cooperate with the police even more.

Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled, 7–2, that a town and its police department could not be sued under 42 U.S.C. §1983 for failing to enforce a restraining order, which had led to the murder of a woman’s three children by her estranged husband..*Response

As this case is the latest in a lineage of high-profile cases, such as DeShaney v. Winnebago County, in which lawsuits against governmental entities for failure to prevent harm to an individual were dismissed, it has also been used by gun rights advocates in the United States to add additional weight to the self-defense argument for private gun ownership.3

The National Organization for Women has argued the Supreme Court’s decision reduced the utility of restraining orders and “effectively gives law enforcement a green light to ignore restraining orders.”* 4—You purposefully misread the arguments and the outcome to get your conspiracy idea across. The police have been harassing and killing of minorities in the USA since they were formed.

Not a shooting, but back years ago at Ft. Banning ‘68, a black friend of ours was arrested by the cops in Phoenix City, Alabama and charged with armed robbery based on numerous witnesses. The only problem is, at the time of the robbery he was in Los Angeles, California attending his mother’s funeral!! Another friend happened to know George Wallace and gave him a call at his unlisted number, and handed the phone to the Sheriff. George informed the guy in no uncertain terms, that our friend would be released, IMMEDIATELY! He was, but they’d beaten the “you know what” out of him to try to get him to confess to the crime.

It would be nice to think those things have changed, but too many of these shootings indicate they haven’t, and indeed police training may be worse. And, I spent a decade in law enforcement, dealt with drug nuts, as well as mental patients, and never shot any of them! BTW; one of the “mental folks” was a girl who put 6 bullets in the back of her boyfriend’s head. Turned out he was her THIRD victim, the first two were when she was a juvenile. Yes, 1. She was white, and 2. Her daddy was a lawyer, uncle a judge. She walked as they claimed it was self defense, again. It felt like Texas, if you’ve ever heard of the Billie Sol Estes case and events around that.

Thank you for sharing, Tom. I remember this and I was horrified by it. What made it worse is the police were believed without question. Un-damn-believable! It’s sad that after all the video that have shown the abuse of the police department, there are still police that shoot to kill. Oh by the way, isn’t it interesting the recent shooter in New York was shot but at the time of this writing, he is still alive—-but of course, he isn’t Black, he’s a Muslim terrorist

Michael R.—I am always amazed when I see a cartoon from a political cartoonist that is ridiculously presented. How can a “political” cartoonist not see what is happening to a people over and over and your response is to cooperate with the source of the problem? I’m amaze you are so ill informed. Political cartoonist, huh? Spend some time learning both sides of the issue and try to look a little more intelligent in the future. Think you can do that?

BillW101: one thing common in the “blogosphere”, some of the people have actually lived lives, others only blog, and try to insult those who have.

You seem to have no concept what the co-operation actually means.Cops SAY “cooperation” when they mean absolute unflinching and immediate COMPLIANCE with their demands even when those demands are illegal.

It doesn’t matter to these people how many studies are done to show that no matter what is in the hands of a Black American, the first reaction is to shoot.It doesn’t matter to these people how many examples of compliance by Black Americans still results in violence being meted out against them.They even bring up the words of MLK and forget he was assassinated by a person saying the same exact things these people are saying today:COMPLYORDIE,NEGRO.Then they turn around and complete that sale of the Ki of Cocaine they need for next week’s party, the purchase of enough heroin, unprescribed oxycontin or fentanyl to last them the week, the rape of the drunk and passed-out girl on their couch, the beating of the kids and the wife, the effort to provide protection of their youth preacher after he raped those kids, and the con game to relieve that grandmother in Wisconsin of her life savings.