Thank you, Mr. Fawkes. It is always good to remind ppl who believe they know what the founders thought on issues to see such quotes. Pres.Washington stated that political parties would divide and weaken the nation and that the USA was not formed in anyway to be a Christian nation, though Mr. Washington himself was a deeply religious man. Pray for people, don’t prey on them might have been his position. It is also sad to see how many of our neighbors are unaware that Muslims worship the same God as Jews and Christians, or that Jesus is revered as a prophet in the Quran. Thank you again for your lucid and respectful thoughts.Respectfully,C.
A bumper sticker read “Not all religious extremists are Muslim” and Winston Churchill said, “A fanatic can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.”We now see a time where loyalty to party trumps loyalty to nation. Where loyalty to a perceived ‘philosophy’ – religions, guns, money – trumps loyalty to the precepts of compassion and love that form the foundation of the Bible and Quran, with both books written in the name of the God of Abraham. Our neighbors focus on 1-3 issues that have NOTHING to do with the functioning of state/federal government and ignore collapsing bridges, rocks falling onto cars, dams in critical need of repair, and a power grid using 60+ year old technology. While most nations teach that 2+2=4, religious ppl demand that we teach 2+2=5, because once you add God into the mix… everything changes. The number zero was considered heretical because as long as God existed, there was no such thing as “nothing”. It wasn’t until after the 11th century zero became accepted in Europe. Education is the only weapon a civilized society has against bigotry, hate, and violence. Mr. Trump has stated on video, after one of his primary wins, “We LOVE the uneducated.” I fear he is not alone.Respectfully,C.
What would motivate gun violence against innocent men, women and children? What did we do to deserve such an outpouring of irrational, blind hatred? In the aftermath of the Orlando massacre, it is clear that most Americans still do not understand the ideology of the radical NRA. It may not have been the fully automatic weapon the NRA wanted, but this radical gun culture is far from dead. We had better wake up to reality.
Some folks need to reflect on what is “taught” to kids in Cathollic schools where nuns and rulers rule, or “home schools” run by “evangelicals”, or maybe the history of conversion by slavery, torture and death on new cultures by Jesuits and again, evangelical missionaries, saving souls by conversion or death.
Reading the “Armed Citizen” columns in NRA publications is truly scary for anyone with training in firearms use and safety, and especially law enforcement, where these "citizen"actions would lead to collateral deaths, arrest, and criminal prosecution if a police officer did the same thing as these gun toting nuts.
‘GOP won’t stop terror suspects from owning guns because right-wing nuts are a threat — and their base’
“The psychiatric profession has chosen not to consider fanaticism as a mental disorder — but there’s still some confusion because there’s no clear boundary separating religious and political extremism from psychiatric illness.
“One man’s cherished belief is another man’s delusion,” explained Dr. Allen Frances, former chair of the DSM-IV Task Force and a professor emeritus at Duke University School of Medicine.”
In related news, I read an opinion piece today that suggested we should consider limiting the sale of such guns to those that are registered as part of civilian-ran, state-sponsored militias, like originally described in the Constitution. Not those anarchists you read about living in camps in the backcountries in like Ohio or someplace, but a proper militia meant to uphold the laws of the representative state. I don’t think it’d completely solve the gun violence issue, but I think it’s a worthwhile idea worth considering at the very least, so I’m throwing it out there into the thick of this debate, see if it holds up.
Wiley Woolies almost 8 years ago
In this case, truly the pot calling to kettle black.
Dtroutma almost 8 years ago
Fanatic may be more appropriate than “radical”.
Kylop almost 8 years ago
Excellent Job Nick
cdward almost 8 years ago
same same.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Gun lovers love their guns more than human life. How sad.
chazandru almost 8 years ago
Thank you, Mr. Fawkes. It is always good to remind ppl who believe they know what the founders thought on issues to see such quotes. Pres.Washington stated that political parties would divide and weaken the nation and that the USA was not formed in anyway to be a Christian nation, though Mr. Washington himself was a deeply religious man. Pray for people, don’t prey on them might have been his position. It is also sad to see how many of our neighbors are unaware that Muslims worship the same God as Jews and Christians, or that Jesus is revered as a prophet in the Quran. Thank you again for your lucid and respectful thoughts.Respectfully,C.
chazandru almost 8 years ago
A bumper sticker read “Not all religious extremists are Muslim” and Winston Churchill said, “A fanatic can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.”We now see a time where loyalty to party trumps loyalty to nation. Where loyalty to a perceived ‘philosophy’ – religions, guns, money – trumps loyalty to the precepts of compassion and love that form the foundation of the Bible and Quran, with both books written in the name of the God of Abraham. Our neighbors focus on 1-3 issues that have NOTHING to do with the functioning of state/federal government and ignore collapsing bridges, rocks falling onto cars, dams in critical need of repair, and a power grid using 60+ year old technology. While most nations teach that 2+2=4, religious ppl demand that we teach 2+2=5, because once you add God into the mix… everything changes. The number zero was considered heretical because as long as God existed, there was no such thing as “nothing”. It wasn’t until after the 11th century zero became accepted in Europe. Education is the only weapon a civilized society has against bigotry, hate, and violence. Mr. Trump has stated on video, after one of his primary wins, “We LOVE the uneducated.” I fear he is not alone.Respectfully,C.
38lowell almost 8 years ago
Other than the Swiss, does another country allow guns at home?
Mr. Blawt almost 8 years ago
What would motivate gun violence against innocent men, women and children? What did we do to deserve such an outpouring of irrational, blind hatred? In the aftermath of the Orlando massacre, it is clear that most Americans still do not understand the ideology of the radical NRA. It may not have been the fully automatic weapon the NRA wanted, but this radical gun culture is far from dead. We had better wake up to reality.
paul GROSS Premium Member almost 8 years ago
So the NRA has been tossing homosexuals off roof tops and beheading Christians? Hadn’t heard that.
Dtroutma almost 8 years ago
Some folks need to reflect on what is “taught” to kids in Cathollic schools where nuns and rulers rule, or “home schools” run by “evangelicals”, or maybe the history of conversion by slavery, torture and death on new cultures by Jesuits and again, evangelical missionaries, saving souls by conversion or death.
Reading the “Armed Citizen” columns in NRA publications is truly scary for anyone with training in firearms use and safety, and especially law enforcement, where these "citizen"actions would lead to collateral deaths, arrest, and criminal prosecution if a police officer did the same thing as these gun toting nuts.
Happy Two Shoes almost 8 years ago
Leave it to the GOP and NRA to prevert everything.
Family of AR-15 inventor: The weapon wasn’t meant for civilians
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/283716-family-of-ar-15-inventor-the-weapon-wasnt-meant-for-civilians
OmqR-IV.0 almost 8 years ago
‘GOP won’t stop terror suspects from owning guns because right-wing nuts are a threat — and their base’
“The psychiatric profession has chosen not to consider fanaticism as a mental disorder — but there’s still some confusion because there’s no clear boundary separating religious and political extremism from psychiatric illness.
“One man’s cherished belief is another man’s delusion,” explained Dr. Allen Frances, former chair of the DSM-IV Task Force and a professor emeritus at Duke University School of Medicine.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/gop-wont-stop-terror-suspects-from-owning-guns-because-right-wing-nuts-are-a-threat-and-their-base/
echoraven almost 8 years ago
One of them throws gays off of buildings, the other is the NRA.
scyphi26 almost 8 years ago
Does sum it up a bit too well, I think.
In related news, I read an opinion piece today that suggested we should consider limiting the sale of such guns to those that are registered as part of civilian-ran, state-sponsored militias, like originally described in the Constitution. Not those anarchists you read about living in camps in the backcountries in like Ohio or someplace, but a proper militia meant to uphold the laws of the representative state. I don’t think it’d completely solve the gun violence issue, but I think it’s a worthwhile idea worth considering at the very least, so I’m throwing it out there into the thick of this debate, see if it holds up.
tauyen almost 8 years ago
More have died in the name of ‘god’ than for any other human cause.
lindz.coop Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Interesting that both God and guns have been hijacked by fanatics.