Obama did not create and grow ISIS. The major Western powers and Russia are united in an approach to defeat ISIS. The FOX news gang and followers are united in a treasonous reaction to the Western strategy.
Gypsy8 said, about 7 hours ago “Obama did not create and grow ISIS. The major Western powers and Russia are united in an approach to defeat ISIS….”-Obama created the vacuum in Iraq by pulling our troops on the ground almost completely OUT. That vacuum allowed Jihadists to regroup under the ISIS banner under a leader ready to set up his idea of a “Caliphate” planned to grow until the Global Jihad succeeds in “ruling the earth”….-ISIS grew by the US policy of “hands off” and allowing them to illegally sell Iraq’s oil and to receive funding from other Islamic states in the Mideast. When America “cuts and runs” the signal is clear for the baddest and meanest and biggest bully to take over and claim ownership.-It is only loose words “uniting” Russia with the West to “fight ISIS”…..at first news reported Russia was bombing the rebels against Syria’s Assad, not the ISIS. -In Hillary’s Libya, turned into anarchy, now shelters ISIS training bases, including pilot training for new 9/11s.-What the apparently dense minds of the Western nations have missed completely, is that the battle begun by Global Jihadists cannot be negotiated or “contained” but must be totally defeated and the leadership wiped out, or no one in the West will have security or safety, much less “peace”.Dictators use the word “peace” to explain total submission, total loss of ability to exercise God-given rights to live, choose, worship, and speak without fear about our Faith in the God of the Bible, the only possible source of our salvation and eternal Life with God.
“……Have you found a way to blame Bush for the Barberry Wars…..”.Who said anything about Bush?.“…..That doesn’t mean Gruber did not have a lot to do with writing Obama Care…..”.Who said anything about Gruber or the ACA?.One small example of sleazy FOX News reporting is their attempt to undermine Obama on a daily basis by someone(s) accusing him of calling ISIS the JV team. For one thing, this was a very small snippet of a statement said some time ago; the other thing is that the whole purpose of a JV team is to develop into the main varsity team, which is what happened; so where is he wrong?.You don’t have to listen to FOX for very long to realize their mission is to undermine Obama and the Democrats, which in wartime is treasonous.
Another 32 ISIL members just killed in a raid in Syria. Targeting bad guys makes a lot more sense than “shock and awe”, which, with the Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney policies, CREATED ISIL!
@Gypsy8….Bush did not leave a vacuum in Iraq. Bush left a democratic, elected government of Iraq ruled by Iraqis.-The “negotiations” Bush did with Iraqi leaders was a guideline meant to be changed if and when needed.Obama chose to pick the earliest date to pull out needed troops, as Iraqis begged him to leave more troops. Obama left the Iraqis vulnerable and the Jihadis took full advantage.-What about Obama’s further bad policies of siding with the evil Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and irritating the Egyptian people who voted to replace Obama’s choice for ruling Egypt under Sharia Law which makes citizens into serfs.-Or the Libyan farce, and the entire North Africa mess due to Obama’s bad policies. Terrorist groups there and in Somalia and Ethiopia and ISIS used the vacuum opportunity to seize the richest parts of Iraq (oil fields, etc) and set up a “Caliphate” intended to grow and spread. From there via the Internet, ISIS is using our technology and our excessively tolerant laws to plant “lone wolf” terrorists, homegrown, to turn America into a battleground in our cities….-How stupid can our leaders be? Not to mention their supporters, who believe every “narrative” the White House and MSM publish!
We’re never going to hear a “Today, December 7th, a day that will live in infamy…” speech from this empty-suited libtard; especially where Islamic terrorist attacks are concerned.
“The matter is not simple… well, trust the lawyers and politicians to make that so”Yeah, politicians and lawyers certainly make things harder than they need to be. On that we can certainly agree.
Gypsy8 over 8 years ago
Obama did not create and grow ISIS. The major Western powers and Russia are united in an approach to defeat ISIS. The FOX news gang and followers are united in a treasonous reaction to the Western strategy.
Ivan Araque over 8 years ago
You mean, the Bush policies that created ISIS? Zzzzzz
sofartotheleftimright over 8 years ago
@Wraithkin
It’s as untrue now as the first time you posted this comment.
stillwaterart over 8 years ago
Saddam Hussin kept the crap in check by being as worthless as they are.
kline0800 over 8 years ago
Gypsy8 said, about 7 hours ago “Obama did not create and grow ISIS. The major Western powers and Russia are united in an approach to defeat ISIS….”-Obama created the vacuum in Iraq by pulling our troops on the ground almost completely OUT. That vacuum allowed Jihadists to regroup under the ISIS banner under a leader ready to set up his idea of a “Caliphate” planned to grow until the Global Jihad succeeds in “ruling the earth”….-ISIS grew by the US policy of “hands off” and allowing them to illegally sell Iraq’s oil and to receive funding from other Islamic states in the Mideast. When America “cuts and runs” the signal is clear for the baddest and meanest and biggest bully to take over and claim ownership.-It is only loose words “uniting” Russia with the West to “fight ISIS”…..at first news reported Russia was bombing the rebels against Syria’s Assad, not the ISIS. -In Hillary’s Libya, turned into anarchy, now shelters ISIS training bases, including pilot training for new 9/11s.-What the apparently dense minds of the Western nations have missed completely, is that the battle begun by Global Jihadists cannot be negotiated or “contained” but must be totally defeated and the leadership wiped out, or no one in the West will have security or safety, much less “peace”.Dictators use the word “peace” to explain total submission, total loss of ability to exercise God-given rights to live, choose, worship, and speak without fear about our Faith in the God of the Bible, the only possible source of our salvation and eternal Life with God.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 8 years ago
You’re just going to cut & past the anti-Muslim conspiracy loon nonsense everywhere, it seems.
Gypsy8 over 8 years ago
“……Have you found a way to blame Bush for the Barberry Wars…..”.Who said anything about Bush?.“…..That doesn’t mean Gruber did not have a lot to do with writing Obama Care…..”.Who said anything about Gruber or the ACA?.One small example of sleazy FOX News reporting is their attempt to undermine Obama on a daily basis by someone(s) accusing him of calling ISIS the JV team. For one thing, this was a very small snippet of a statement said some time ago; the other thing is that the whole purpose of a JV team is to develop into the main varsity team, which is what happened; so where is he wrong?.You don’t have to listen to FOX for very long to realize their mission is to undermine Obama and the Democrats, which in wartime is treasonous.
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
Another 32 ISIL members just killed in a raid in Syria. Targeting bad guys makes a lot more sense than “shock and awe”, which, with the Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney policies, CREATED ISIL!
moosemin over 8 years ago
Posters: Refer to my 12/8 comment under Glenn McCoy.
kline0800 over 8 years ago
@Gypsy8….Bush did not leave a vacuum in Iraq. Bush left a democratic, elected government of Iraq ruled by Iraqis.-The “negotiations” Bush did with Iraqi leaders was a guideline meant to be changed if and when needed.Obama chose to pick the earliest date to pull out needed troops, as Iraqis begged him to leave more troops. Obama left the Iraqis vulnerable and the Jihadis took full advantage.-What about Obama’s further bad policies of siding with the evil Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and irritating the Egyptian people who voted to replace Obama’s choice for ruling Egypt under Sharia Law which makes citizens into serfs.-Or the Libyan farce, and the entire North Africa mess due to Obama’s bad policies. Terrorist groups there and in Somalia and Ethiopia and ISIS used the vacuum opportunity to seize the richest parts of Iraq (oil fields, etc) and set up a “Caliphate” intended to grow and spread. From there via the Internet, ISIS is using our technology and our excessively tolerant laws to plant “lone wolf” terrorists, homegrown, to turn America into a battleground in our cities….-How stupid can our leaders be? Not to mention their supporters, who believe every “narrative” the White House and MSM publish!
Tarredandfeathered over 8 years ago
According to this, he’s going to continue Dubya Bush’s failure?.Even though we are OUT of Iraq despite the Howling of the Right Wingnuts.
clayusmcret Premium Member over 8 years ago
We’re never going to hear a “Today, December 7th, a day that will live in infamy…” speech from this empty-suited libtard; especially where Islamic terrorist attacks are concerned.
CecilGarnert over 8 years ago
The one trick pony Obama trasher still has not learned how to draw his subject and make him look even vaguely human.
doclnemo over 8 years ago
no he just pulls on the ring in your noses like all liberals
Wraithkin over 8 years ago
“The matter is not simple… well, trust the lawyers and politicians to make that so”Yeah, politicians and lawyers certainly make things harder than they need to be. On that we can certainly agree.