^ Let’s look at your statement another way. So Mother Nature seeps about … what … into the oceans all across the world per year… perhaps relatively equal to the amount of oil put into this ONE SPOT in a few days.
So certainly if it’s natural… then focusing it on one spot can’t be bad… right?
Harley, fault lines, “natural seeps”, and types of deposits are exactly why the publication on oil in the Santa Barbara channel is RISKIER than even in the Gulf of Mexico.
The real volume documented in the Gulf of Mexico is about 120,000 barrels PER YEAR over the entire Gulf. That is quite different than the impact of higher than that flow in a single day from a blown well.
“Biodegrading” does happen, but volumes and types of product emitted makes a huge difference in impacts, and recovery, or lack thereof.
The floating stuff is still not the most dangerous “stuff”.
harley, you haven’t been reading posts, or you’ve been deliberately ignoring them. Shame on you. You’re still peddling the “seepage” line, when trout and others have posted clearly that the annual seepage is a tenth of what this blowout did in a day.
This is how Conservatives work, it is how they wear us down, and ruin any hope or chance of discussion or exchange of ideas.
Make a statement, ignore responses to that statement that prove you are wrong, or offer other explaniations or ideas, and then go to another toon and post the same stuff again.
I get blasted for repeating myself, which I do, but I have to because so many of the Conservative posters repeat the same old lies, or comments, so what I do is repeat the truth right after their comments, they ignore it (or attack me and tell me to get back under my rock) but it is there, and the best way to fight a lie is just keep repeating the truth.
Howgozit - I really hate to say that I have not seen you offer any opinion of your own here in some time. I don’t read daily, so forgive me if I’m wrong.
I usually disagree with Mr Warren, but I’ve come to appreciate that his heart is in the right place, it is his mentality that is disoriented. Everybody is one extreme or the other with him. “Conservative” means 100% to the “right” and all of us who actually fall into the 99-51% range do not exist. Also, the Demographic of Democrats is that 50-01%left do not exist, only 0 degrees does. He just needs to meet and socialize, open mindedly, with more people. I do believe that almost all of us have the best of intentions for our nation and our people. We disagree on how to arrive there, but most of us are not evil.
Motive - sorry about the other night. I get cranky when it is past my bedtime. But you are right that I sometimes just enjoy stirring things up a bit.
LOCO - Okay, but remember that I often reply to someone (like How) who states an exreme position and says it is the truth, so you have to come back with both the facts, and to point out just how extreme their position is.
I use the term Conservative as it has historically been used, and not just a GOP/DEMS difference. Many of the posters I respond to (such as HOW) could be more accurately refered to as Far Right.
I will offer in my defense that if you read many of my posts that I often point out that this is a Democracy, and for a Democracy to work their has to be compromise, and the current leadership (and most vocal members) of the GOP will not compromise which brings the process to a halt.
harleyquinn; just like if I bleed from between my legs during my period, it’s normal, but if I hemorrage a liter of blood from my head two weeks later it isn’t.
^Julian Jaynes wrote an enormously entertaining book in 1976 without a single reference on brain biology past something like 1963. And we’ve learned more about the brain in the past 30 years than in the last 300. Possibly the last 3000.
I have the book on my shelf; I enjoyed it in college. Some of his ideas of brain organization have actually proven out since. But I am exceedingly skeptical of his view of history.
I rather wish he had managed to finish the second book – the one that was supposed to have the research rather than the speculation and storytelling – that he promised in the book.
For the record, he died in 1997, so he had two decades to deliver.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Nice water background.
Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
They freed Willy to end up like this?
Simon_Jester almost 14 years ago
I don’t have the hear to tell them they’re still 2000 miles from land
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
^ Let’s look at your statement another way. So Mother Nature seeps about … what … into the oceans all across the world per year… perhaps relatively equal to the amount of oil put into this ONE SPOT in a few days.
So certainly if it’s natural… then focusing it on one spot can’t be bad… right?
Dtroutma almost 14 years ago
Harley, fault lines, “natural seeps”, and types of deposits are exactly why the publication on oil in the Santa Barbara channel is RISKIER than even in the Gulf of Mexico.
The real volume documented in the Gulf of Mexico is about 120,000 barrels PER YEAR over the entire Gulf. That is quite different than the impact of higher than that flow in a single day from a blown well.
“Biodegrading” does happen, but volumes and types of product emitted makes a huge difference in impacts, and recovery, or lack thereof.
The floating stuff is still not the most dangerous “stuff”.
Motivemagus almost 14 years ago
harley, you haven’t been reading posts, or you’ve been deliberately ignoring them. Shame on you. You’re still peddling the “seepage” line, when trout and others have posted clearly that the annual seepage is a tenth of what this blowout did in a day.
kennethcwarren64 almost 14 years ago
This is how Conservatives work, it is how they wear us down, and ruin any hope or chance of discussion or exchange of ideas.
Make a statement, ignore responses to that statement that prove you are wrong, or offer other explaniations or ideas, and then go to another toon and post the same stuff again.
I get blasted for repeating myself, which I do, but I have to because so many of the Conservative posters repeat the same old lies, or comments, so what I do is repeat the truth right after their comments, they ignore it (or attack me and tell me to get back under my rock) but it is there, and the best way to fight a lie is just keep repeating the truth.
Simon_Jester almost 14 years ago
Looking at Harley’s post, I’m reminded of a quote from Marx.
CHICO Marx, that is – “Hey, who you gonna believe, ME…or your own eyes?”
SherriannPederson almost 14 years ago
“However, will they trust me now that they know I’m a wofle in sleep’s clothing?”
Simon_Jester almost 14 years ago
And it’s the truth coz Howdy SAYS it’s the truth.
myming almost 14 years ago
is that a note in the bottle ?
Loco80 almost 14 years ago
Howgozit - I really hate to say that I have not seen you offer any opinion of your own here in some time. I don’t read daily, so forgive me if I’m wrong. I usually disagree with Mr Warren, but I’ve come to appreciate that his heart is in the right place, it is his mentality that is disoriented. Everybody is one extreme or the other with him. “Conservative” means 100% to the “right” and all of us who actually fall into the 99-51% range do not exist. Also, the Demographic of Democrats is that 50-01%left do not exist, only 0 degrees does. He just needs to meet and socialize, open mindedly, with more people. I do believe that almost all of us have the best of intentions for our nation and our people. We disagree on how to arrive there, but most of us are not evil. Motive - sorry about the other night. I get cranky when it is past my bedtime. But you are right that I sometimes just enjoy stirring things up a bit.
kennethcwarren64 almost 14 years ago
LOCO - Okay, but remember that I often reply to someone (like How) who states an exreme position and says it is the truth, so you have to come back with both the facts, and to point out just how extreme their position is.
I use the term Conservative as it has historically been used, and not just a GOP/DEMS difference. Many of the posters I respond to (such as HOW) could be more accurately refered to as Far Right.
I will offer in my defense that if you read many of my posts that I often point out that this is a Democracy, and for a Democracy to work their has to be compromise, and the current leadership (and most vocal members) of the GOP will not compromise which brings the process to a halt.
pirate227 almost 14 years ago
The message in that bottle says, “We’re so screwed.”
runar almost 14 years ago
There’s natural seepage all right. Wingnut brains dribbling out the holes in their heads.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 14 years ago
harleyquinn; just like if I bleed from between my legs during my period, it’s normal, but if I hemorrage a liter of blood from my head two weeks later it isn’t.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 14 years ago
DrCanuck;
Repair a rock? You perform brain surgery on it! (Sirom gets it, nurf nurf).
Motivemagus almost 14 years ago
^Julian Jaynes wrote an enormously entertaining book in 1976 without a single reference on brain biology past something like 1963. And we’ve learned more about the brain in the past 30 years than in the last 300. Possibly the last 3000. I have the book on my shelf; I enjoyed it in college. Some of his ideas of brain organization have actually proven out since. But I am exceedingly skeptical of his view of history. I rather wish he had managed to finish the second book – the one that was supposed to have the research rather than the speculation and storytelling – that he promised in the book. For the record, he died in 1997, so he had two decades to deliver.