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  1. 4my10851cs

    4my10851cs said, 7 days ago

    I rise today in support of the NYPD

    Bryan Fischer – Guest Columnist
    Friday, December 05, 2014

    Bryan Fischer

    It turns out that almost everything bleated out by the race-mongers and the low-information media about
    the Eric Garner tragedy has turned out to be wrong.

    Eric Garner, a 43-year-old father of six, is dead. This is a tragedy, regardless of the circumstances.
    We rightly mourn with his wife and children. They will never see their husband and father again,
    and that should break everyone’s heart.

    When we witness a gut-rending tragedy like this, we want to know who is responsible. Who is to
    blame for depriving this family of its husband and father? As the facts emerge, it becomes increasingly
    clear that, as tragic as this situation is, in the end the culpability for Eric Garner’s death rests with Eric Garner.
    To put it as simply as possible, if Mr. Garner had not broken the law and then resisted arrest, he would be alive today.
    While protesters are trying to make this about race, it must be noted that the police showed up in response
    to complaints from black business owners. The arrest was ordered by a black officer, and the arrest itself
    was supervised by a black officer, a female sergeant.

    A crackdown on the sale of illegal, untaxed cigarettes – called “loosies” since they are sold in singles
    rather than in packs – had been ordered just days before Garner’s arrest by the highest ranking black police officer
    in the NYPD, Philip Banks.

    So a black officer ordered the crackdown, black business owners called for the arrest, a black officer ordered
    the arrest, and a black officer supervised the arrest itself. It’s also worth noting that the 23-member grand jury
    which refused to indict the arresting officer included nine non-white members. Ask yourself how many of those
    facts you have heard from any member of the race-obsessed, low-information media.

    Garner had been arrested 31 times, and eight of those had been for selling loosies. His rap
    sheet goes back decades and includes arrests for assault and grand larceny.
    At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with multiple offenses, including illegal sale
    of cigarettes, marijuana possession, false impersonation and driving without a license.
    So he certainly knew the law, knew he was in violation, and knew doing it again would likely lead to his arrest,
    a drill he’d been through dozens of times before.
    There were 228,000 misdemeanor arrests in New York City in 2013, the last year for which figures are available.
    All of them put together led to precisely zero deaths.
    Garner, all six-foot, three inches and 350 pounds of him, clearly resisted arrest, swatting away the arresting
    officer’s hands while loudly exclaiming, “Don’t touch me!” After he was taken to the ground, he growled,
    “This ends here!” That could be taken any number of ways, but in the heat of the moment it certainly could be
    read reasonably as a declaration that he was going to fight arrest until he was subdued by compelling force.

    The patrolman who wrestled Garner to the ground, Daniel Pantaleo, did it by the book, using a takedown
    maneuver every policeman is taught at the academy. He did not, in fact, use a chokehold, which is defined
    by the NYPD as “any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce
    intake of air.” Now Garner was clearly able to breathe, since that’s the only way he could repeatedly say,
    “I can’t breathe.”

    The autopsy explicitly declares that there was no injury to Garner’s windpipe or to his neck bones. This was
    a wrestler’s headlock, not a chokehold. (As a sidenote, chokeholds, while contrary to police policy, are not
    in fact illegal in the state of New York when an officer uses one to restrain a resisting subject. They are not
    even illegal in New York City, at the insistence of liberal mayor Bill DeBlasio.) Patrolman Pantaleo was not
    indicted for the simple reason that he did nothing wrong.

    Garner’s death likely should be attributed to the fact that he himself suffered from severe asthma, something
    the arresting officers had no reason to know. According to Garner’s friends, his asthma was severe enough
    that he was forced to quit his job as horticulturist for the city. He wheezed when he talked and could not walk
    so much as a city block without having to stop to rest. Garner “couldn’t breathe” because of his asthma,
    not because of a chokehold.

    In addition, he suffered from heart disease, advanced diabetes, hypertension, obesity and sleep apnea.
    Contrary to public perception, he did not die on site, nor did he die of asphyxiation. He suffered cardiac arrest
    in the ambulance and was declared dead about an hour later at the hospital.

    So it turns out that almost everything bleated out by the race-mongers and the low-information media has
    turned out to be wrong. As the wisest man who ever lived wrote 3,000 years ago, “The one who states his
    case first seems right until the other comes and examines him” (Proverbs 18:17).

    Eric Garner and Michael Brown both fought the law, and the law won. In the end, they have no one to blame
    but themselves. New York Post columnist Bob McMcanus concluded his column on Eric Garner this way:
    “There are many New Yorkers – politicians, activists, trial lawyers, all the usual suspects – who will now seek to
    profit from a tragedy that wouldn’t have happened had Eric Garner made a different decision.
    “He was a victim of himself. It’s just that simple.”

  2. Thrangor

    Thrangor said, 7 days ago

    Thank you. That was informative.

  3. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 7 days ago

    ^I would have defined “hysterics” as opposed to “race mongers”, but as a former law enforcment officer trained in the techniques used on Garner, and an EMT for four decades, I would agree with the above description of events as shown in the videos, including the less often seen videos of them administering care to Garner. I would say that as the officers had to lie on him to secure him, that could have caused additional respiratory distress, but again, only a complication of his physcial condtion and problems, not the cause per se.


    As with the lies long known regarding the actions of CiA personnel or contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as Bush administration lies to build the case for war against Saddam, facts and evidence don’t sway those convinced by hysteria (9/11 OR “race”) to believe what the propaganda, not facts, say.


    I would guess that most people in America DO “profile”, conciously or subconciously, almost everyone they meet, from race, to clothing, make of car they drive, whether men have facial hair and pony tails as opposed to clean-shaven and short haired, visible tattoos, and height to weight ratio. Profiling alone does NOT automatically become discrimination! When a police officer confronts an individual twice his size, with known prior arrests, race becomes secondary in his evaluation, personal safety warrants concern on the first two elements alone.


    “profile” and “prejudice” are NOT the same thing.

  4. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, 7 days ago

    I think the whole idea of using race as an issue in the attempted arrest of Mr. Garner is beside the point. The point is that he was choked to death. Last I heard, selling “loosies” is not a capital crime.

    The video I saw showed the arresting officer with his arm clearly around Mr. Garner’s neck, with his arm muscles bulging and his skin bright red. This officer was choking the perp, whether he intended to or not.

    The fact that you can’t say that you can’t breathe if you can’t breathe is stupid semantics. Would you have rather he said something closer to the truth, like: “I most certainly can breathe, but the amount of oxygen that I can intake is not enough to maintain consciousness”? He was saying that his breathing had been impaired significantly. Debating which words he should have used is deliberately bypassing the point.

    I know dtroutma has law enforcement experience, and I bow to your superior knowledge. But I have to wonder, and I will ask anyone with more experience:

    Would it have been so hard to say to Mr. Garner: “Look. I have a gun. I have mace. I have a taser and a nightstick. And I have a half dozen colleagues right here who are equally well-armed. Now we can go quietly and calmly, or we can do it the hard way.”?

    I submit that the outcome would have been far different if those words (or something similar) had been used. Please tell me if I am wrong, and why, as I genuinely would like to learn from this.

  5. Justjoking

    Justjoking said, 7 days ago

    @I Play One On TV

    Do we know what the conversation between the officers and Mr. Garner actually was?
    From the videos I have seen it seemed to be a much longer conversation than was necessary in order to make a person who had gone thru the scenario multiple times, many of those times for the exact same offence.
    Do you really believe that he didn’t know that they were going to take him into custody whether or not he thought they should?
    I believe I have seen that you profess to be a medical doctor (please forgive me if I am incorrect)if this is correct may I ask this question of you: If the officers had used any of the alternative methods you suggested they should have advised him they were willing to use on Mr. Garner, given his list of medical ailments do you think any of those alternative methods could have caused his death?
    If your answer is yes, don’t you think that there still would be the furor raised just as it has been with the choke hold method?
    I am not saying it is a good thing that Mr. Garner died. I am saying much like the piece by Mr. Fischer said, Mr. Garner is as much to blame for his own death, if not more so, than the officer.

  6. ahab

    ahab GoComics PRO Member said, 7 days ago

    @Justjoking

    There are ways to take nonviolent people into custody without injuring them, and deescalation techniques are well known to police who have proper training.

  7. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, 7 days ago

    @Justjoking

    I am not familiar with the total conversation.

    Because of that, I do not know that he knew he would be arrested, but from what I have read, he should have expected it.

    I am an optometrist; no harm done. Just a different type of doc.

    And you are absolutely correct: other methods may have killed him as well. Just recently a local police officer was killed when her partner zapped her with a taser to tease her. Sometimes bad things happen when you don’t expect them.

    Do I think any furor would have been raised if other methods of subduing him would have killed him? To a degree, yes. There will always be people who will find a reason to jump on other people, regardless of justification.

    My point, though, was that most everyone will not like others to touch them. Although this may meet the letter of the law concerning resisting arrest, it is not active resistance, and does not warrant a tackle and chokehold. But I freely admit to not being trained, and I may be very off base; that’s why I was asking others who have more experience for help in my understanding.

    I truly do believe, though, that if he had been told what I wrote previously, he should have had the capability to realize that resisting would be unproductive, and he may well have been more willing to go quietly. Again, what do I know?

    Although I will agree that he contributed to his death, I cannot agree that the officer was not more culpable.

    And it’s not just this one incident. I witnessed a video shot by a child in the back seat of a car in Connecticut. The driver was pulled over for not wearing a seat belt. Three officers demanded that all passengers get out of the car. I have been fortunate, in that the most I have had to deal with law enforcement have been speeding (twice in 40+ years). In each case, though, I was sternly instructed to stay IN the car.

    The passengers were perplexed and stated that they were afraid to leave the vehicle. Suddenly, the front seat passenger (a male) who WAS wearing a seat belt, had his window smashed, was pulled from the car, was tasered and put into handcuffs within about 10 seconds.

    Incidents such as these will create prejudice against police, regardless of race. When cops use excessive force, and people see this, they lose trust, which is so very important in civilized society. If the officers are punished/disciplined, we feel that the playing field is level. If we believe that they can get away with killing people, it’s got to make it difficult for good police officers.

    And that’s my overarching point.

    Thanks for your insightful questions, and I hope I haven’t been too wordy in my response.

  8. 4my10851cs

    4my10851cs said, 7 days ago

    @I Play One On TV

    “The point is that he was choked to death” he was NOT

  9. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 6 days ago

    Play one: in on incident of note, my partner and I (with guns etc) had arrested two of three guys for selling narcotics. As I was cuffing two, the third (much larger guy) hit my partner and took off. My partner chased him into the woods, I cuffed my guys to my car’s door handled and followed them. When I caught up, the big guy was beating my partner on the head with my partner’s flashlight. I took him down, and had dropped my radio. As I tried to reach and call for backup, he kept rising with my Kel light across his throat. The third or forth time I informed him of where I’d insert the light to choke him to death, and he stopped resisitng. We took my partner to the hospital and the bad guy, about 6’ 4" and 280 pounds, to jail. In booking him, he calmly asked, “If I’d gotten up again, you have killed me, right?” I equally calmly informed him, “Yes”.


    NOTE: two of the three initiallky responded with good sense, complied, and served rather brief time for selling drugs. The third larger, and dumber guy, resisted, attacked a police officer, and was sentenced to 20 years in prison, as some of my partners injuries could potentially have proven fatal, as in the case of Mr. Garner’s pre-existing physical problems, NOT caused by the contact with police. (aggravated, perhaps, but his death was NOT “caused” by police and he did NOT stop breathing, merely had difficulty, and he did NOT get choked, nor did he, as still being reported, die on the street.)

  10. Gresch

    Gresch said, 6 days ago

    to answer the toon… Nah just watch for the ones committing the crimes… play the percentages…

  11. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 6 days ago

    Justjoking: I too would like to see the PRE-contact conversation with the man. I had a guy tell me I didn’t have any “friends” available. He was 6.11 inches and I just stopped him for speeding and he, and his buddy and their girlfriends on the bikes, were being idiots. I pointed to my pocket, with the butt of a chief special, and informed him I had five “friends” who’d blow a hole in him big enough to drive his Honda 750 through. HE, then became, my “friend”, and told his buddy to just shut up and get his dirver’s license out. Yes, he was a black gentleman from Hayward, but I didn’t know that with helmet, jacket, etc., when I pulled him over. I was still polite, even in language and tone when pointing out the dhief special, which; even when the perpetrator becomes an idiot, the officers should NOT!


    If the perp goes beyond that? Well, I think Missouri and New York cases both showed what happens. (I still have serious questions on MO. though. On BOTH sides.)

  12. Justjoking

    Justjoking said, 6 days ago

    @I Play One On TV

    & @ dtroutman
    Thanks for the polite discussion.
    Play, I think you key word in your response was “should have”
    This past spring, in a small town close to me, An officer was killed by a convicted felon (drugs, child molester), shot in the face. Perp was on a bicycle, was black, was dealing drugs…the stereotypical project thug. The perp was killed as well. All of the local media interviews with neighbors and friends pointed out what a lovely person the perp was.
    This is what the issue is: it is not the color it is the culture.
    As I like to say, trash comes in all colors, shapes and sizes. It comes from good neighborhoods as well as bad ones.
    .
    Be well and Merry Christmas.

  13. JPTewel

    JPTewel said, 6 days ago

    Since when does selling a few loose cigarettes rise to such a level that you need 5 cops to arrest an individual? And how can they say he was resisting arrest? He wasn’t being aggressive. He wasn’t fighting with the arresting officer. He was bull rushed for no good reason whatsoever. And the cops ignored his pleas of “I can’t breathe”. Perhaps the officer didn’t use a choke hold but they did restrict his windpipe in some manner. It was a reprehensible act that could have been totally avoided by one cop issuing a ticket and having Mr. Garner move on. The alleged offense, after all, was a misdemeanor. There was no excuse for Mr. Garner’s death at all.

  14. Rx71Wm29

    Rx71Wm29 GoComics PRO Member said, 6 days ago

    Come on, we all know who “those people” are, don’t we?

  15. Cerabooge

    Cerabooge said, 6 days ago

    4my: knock it off. While Bryan Fischer (translation: no need to read another word) is probably happy to have you reprint his entire editorial, it stretches the “fair use” idea beyond breaking. Especially when you post it to multiple ’toons.

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