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  1. Movingsound

    Movingsound GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    Is marriage a religious institution or a state contract? The purposes can be two fold but separated in my mind.

    From the CSM:
    Justice Anthony Kennedy, often the decisive vote in close cases, joined the four more-liberal justices in raising questions Wednesday about a provision that defines marriage as the union of a man and a woman for purposes of federal law.

    It affects more than 1,100 statutes in which marital status is relevant, dealing with tax breaks for married couples, Social Security survivor benefits and, for federal employees, health insurance and leave to care for spouses

  2. michael

    michael GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    Idiot. It’s relevant because Proposition 8 was people voting away the civil rights of a group of people, which is why it’s in the courts.

  3. Alc7

    Alc7 GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @onguard

    Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

  4. Anthony 2816

    Anthony 2816 GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @onguard

    Onguard doesn’t know that we actually live under many Supreme Court decisions on the Constitution, not his own interpretation.

    Here’s where the Supreme Court found it, Onguard (not that you’ll care):

    Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190, 205, 211 (1888): Marriage is “the most important relation in life” and “the foundation of the family and society, without which there would be neither civilization nor progress.”
    Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390, 399 (1923): The right “to marry, establish a home and bring up children” is a central part of liberty protected by the Due Process Clause.
    Skinner v. Oklahoma ex rel. Williamson, 316 U.S. 535, 541 (1942): Marriage “one of the basic civil rights of man,” “fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race.”
    Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, 486 (1965): “We deal with a right of privacy older than the Bill of Rights—older than our political parties, older than our school system. Marriage is a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred. It is an association that promotes a way of life, not causes; a harmony in living, not political faiths; a bilateral loyalty, not commercial or social projects. Yet it is an association for as noble a purpose as any involved in our prior decisions.”
    Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1, 12 (1967): “The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.”
    Boddie v. Connecticut, 401 U.S. 371, 376, 383 (1971): “[M]arriage involves interests of basic importance to our society” and is “a fundamental human relationship.”
    Cleveland Board of Education v. LaFleur, 414 U.S. 632, 639-40 (1974): “This Court has long recognized that freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.”
    Moore v. City of East Cleveland, 431 U.S. 494, 499 (1977) (plurality): “[W]hen the government intrudes on choices concerning family living arrangements, this Court must examine carefully the importance of the governmental interests advanced and the extent to which they are served by the challenged regulation.”
    Carey v. Population Services International, 431 U.S. 678, 684-85 (1977): “[I]t is clear that among the decisions that an individual may make without unjustified government interference are personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and child rearing and education.”
    Zablocki v. Redhail, 434 U.S. 374, 384 (1978): “[T]he right to marry is of fundamental importance for all individuals.”
    Turner v. Safley, 482 U.S. 78, 95 (1987): “[T]he decision to marry is a fundamental right” and an “expression[ ] of emotional support and public commitment.”
    Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 851 (1992): “These matters, involving the most intimate and personal choices a person may make in a lifetime, choices central to personal dignity and autonomy, are central to the liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. At the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.”
    M.L.B. v. S.L.J., 519 U.S. 102, 116 (1996): “Choices about marriage, family life, and the upbringing of children are among associational rights this Court has ranked as ‘of basic importance in our society,’ rights sheltered by the Fourteenth Amendment against the State’s unwarranted usurpation, disregard, or disrespect.”
    Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558, 574 (2003): “[O]ur laws and tradition afford constitutional protection to personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and education. … Persons in a homosexual relationship may seek autonomy for these purposes, just as heterosexual persons do.”

  5. Anthony 2816

    Anthony 2816 GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    Michael referred to the marriage as a civil right, taken away from a group of people in California by Prop 8. You asked “Please share with us where the civil right you refer to is enumerated in the Constitution”. I gave you the answer.

    Perhaps you didn’t read all the way to the end? Here it is again:

    Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558, 574 (2003): “[O]ur laws and tradition afford constitutional protection to personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and education. … Persons in a homosexual relationship may seek autonomy for these purposes, just as heterosexual persons do.”

  6. Ron

    Ron GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    Government has no business telling folks who can and can’t get married. That is up to the folks involved.

  7. Tigger

    Tigger GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @Anthony 2816

    No where does it apply to same sex couples

  8. Anthony 2816

    Anthony 2816 GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @onguard

    Sigh. Okay, I’ll type slower for you. You asked “Please share with us where the civil right you refer to is enumerated in the Constitution.” I explained that we don’t live directly under the Constitution, but under 200+ years of Supreme Court decisions on it. And then I cut-and-pasted the parts of those decisions where marriage has been declared a right.

    The correct response from you would be “Thank you”, and you’re welcome.

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