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  1. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 1 year ago

    It is now!

  2. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, about 1 year ago

    This is what happens when only one party and their donors make all of the decisions in a hurry. Even their friends get upset at the results.
    It would be a true benefit to all Americans were both parties to decide to sit down in their various committees to talk to experts in the medical, insurance, and other related fields to create a truly intelligently designed and bipartisan approach to the long term costs and effectiveness of healthcare reform.
    I will not hold my breath…. but I may sigh a lot in sadness.
    Respectfully,
    C.

  3. brent

    brent GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    Nope…it’s just frightened, ignorant people who have been lied to repeatedly.

  4. Darren Blair

    Darren Blair said, about 1 year ago

    @Respectful Troll

    It’s my understanding that both sides were in agreement with the vast majority of “smalls” in the bill, like allowing people to remain on their parents’ insurance until the age of 26 and providing financial assistance for medical facilities to go paperless. As such, we could have had meaningful reforms in place.
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    Instead, Nancy Pelosi quite literally declared that unless the omnibus was passed as a whole, the topic of health reform would be dead because she would use her then-authority to block any single-issue bills that tried to move through.
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    So no matter what people want to say about the GOP, this all comes down to Obama, Pelosi, and a few other high-level Democrats.

  5. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 1 year ago

    @David

    You left out one operative word in that David: Illegally.
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    Obama has zero legal authority within the ACA to selectively waiver anyone or any group from its requirements. That the bill, as you admit, is full of negative consequences is only one more clear reason to allow Congress to either delay implementation of the whole thing until it is fixed (which is likely never), or abolish it and try again.
    As it is, whatever Obama does legally or illegally with the ACA it will negatively impact the economy and lives of most Americans.

  6. ahab

    ahab GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    www.apha.org FOR non-troll facts about the ACA.

  7. cdward

    cdward said, about 1 year ago

    @David

    Well said

  8. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 1 year ago

    @David

    No, you would be wrong. The waivers Obama granted were to specific groups and corporations, etc., not blanket ones. Delaying provisions of the law is also a violation of it as there were specific time lines included for many provisions. Obama delayed these selectively where they would be politically negative in effect such as raising taxes on medical device suppliers.
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    You cannot fix or improve something so convoluted and complex as a 2700+ page bill filled with all sorts of nonsense. Better to scrap it and start over than try and “improve” what is proving to be worse than an Edsel.
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    Aside from that, the bill will not fix the health insurance system since it essentially leaves it intact and adds a massive layer of government bureaucracy. The system needed to be changed to some other one rather than just having the “deck chairs” rearranged to use the common analogy.

    Oh, the number of uninsured today is closer to 50 million up from the 25 or so million when Obamacare was passed.

  9. wbr

    wbr said, about 1 year ago

    david said " He delayed implementation of the provision. There is no selectivity." WHAT A SPIN

  10. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    Obama passed the conservative vision for health care reform & the unions just realized that. So, does this mean conservatives are now ready to vote for Single Payer? I doubt it.

  11. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    @Tigger

    “The major problem with you post is you leave out The Democrats do to want to make these changes and Obama vowed to veto any bill that changes any part of The ACA.

    It can be fixed today, but the Democrats refuse to fix it."
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    Maybe you can cite all the proposals Republicans have made to fix something in the ACA law. Or even one.
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    Dishonest, even for a Fox “news” viewer.

  12. wbr

    wbr said, about 1 year ago

    dear uncle joe please look up the word conservative since you are miss using it

  13. mskemple

    mskemple said, about 1 year ago

    @Respectful Troll

    Nice perspective , as usual. Good luck to Drew and the boys tonight!

  14. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, about 1 year ago

    The unions want the bill modified, like including sing’e payer, not scrapped. The “conservatives” got what they wanted into the bill, and those ARE the biggest problems with the bill, period.


    AS TO " “conservative”, the term is totally mis-used by those in the TEA party faction, as they are NOT in any way conservatives, or actual “Republicans” any longer.


    Too many concessions were given to get the bill passed, and yes, it had to pass to “know what was in it”, because in actuality, until the implementing regulations are in place, the bill in a functional sense, doesn’t even exist. THAT is what the delay of certain portions represents, the delay in writing the implementing regulations!


    The majority opposing everything Obama does, or comes up with is in a faction of Republicans, and yes, a good many Democrats as well, it IS an issue of “Black and White”. He IS one and not the other, period.

  15. wbr

    wbr said, about 1 year ago

    no dtroitma the unions do not want single payer they want what they have [per wife ’s union news letter afge]

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