Al Qaeda is a group of individuals, kinda’ like the Lions Clubs, with a different purpose, spread across the world. They pick up who they can convince to “join”. Nationalism is NOT part of Al Qaeda.
dtroutma,
I don’t think nationalism was the point of this toon. Al Qaeda’s increasing activity in Somalia is considered to add to the destabilization. Which results in more deaths thus the Somalis in the gun belt. Hard to have nationalism in a failed state. The recognized government has little to no authority.
That had the same effect on me as someone screeching their nails across a blackboard.
Fighting prejudice is quite frustrating and almost impossible for me to even… :-|
Oldlegodad, I’m new to these forums and you might have different ideas to me regarding most things, but could we leave prejudice out of it?
EDIT:
Or was this intentional bait to get a rise out of some? I’m new afterall…
Bait or no bait, the effect was as I described.
Oldlegodad, it’s quite difficult to describe just how offensive an apparently offhand taunt, even if not intended with malice but to goad a reply, can be. But I guess you know this well enough, hence your taunt. It was just too offhand so I suspected madness in your method.
No worries Parker, thanks. ;-) If you watch Sasha Baron Cohen movies, including the latest “Brüno”, I think you’ll see a lot of similar baiting. Sometimes, sometimes only then, using such extreme provocation, can one be able to hold up the prejudice that it attracts in order to expose it.
Magic negro jokes? What? Let’s lighten up a bit folks. I see little wrong with humor that makes fun of each other or plays up stereotypes. If we can’t laugh at ourselves then who can we laugh at?
Anyhow, I was intrigued by Yonalevi’s observation and concluded that he was refering to the headdress (in another post he remarked that the person depicted was Pakistani and not Palestinian which I surmised was because of the traditional attire depicted in the cartoon). Since he’s being rather picky on the clothing, I thought I’d try research it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh
Interesting.
Back to the cartoon…
I thought neither the Americans nor al-Qa’ida are loved in Somalia so why are the Al Shabab on the verge of taking over?
Oldlegodad: Just watched the video on youtube and a Dutch response to it.
As I’m about to head off to the beach with my family I will limit my response:
The video states there 31 countries in the European Union. There are only 27h at present. That was my 1st warning bell (well, not really, the gross exagerations had started from word go) that bs was coming along.
The dramatic (American) voice and tone just made me roll my eyes.
There is jus S-O M-U-C-H wrong with this scaremongering video…
yonalevi almost 15 years ago
Why does a Palestinian man carrying a gun with Al-Qaeda written over it ? Who are those (somalis !!) ? I dont understand the meaning..
Dtroutma almost 15 years ago
Al Qaeda is a group of individuals, kinda’ like the Lions Clubs, with a different purpose, spread across the world. They pick up who they can convince to “join”. Nationalism is NOT part of Al Qaeda.
Gladius almost 15 years ago
dtroutma, I don’t think nationalism was the point of this toon. Al Qaeda’s increasing activity in Somalia is considered to add to the destabilization. Which results in more deaths thus the Somalis in the gun belt. Hard to have nationalism in a failed state. The recognized government has little to no authority.
OmqR-IV.0 almost 15 years ago
Yonalevi : Are you suggesting Gado made some sort of faux pax with the head-dress worn by the gunman?
OmqR-IV.0 almost 15 years ago
“A rag head is a raghead all the world over”
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That had the same effect on me as someone screeching their nails across a blackboard.
Fighting prejudice is quite frustrating and almost impossible for me to even… :-|
Oldlegodad, I’m new to these forums and you might have different ideas to me regarding most things, but could we leave prejudice out of it? EDIT: Or was this intentional bait to get a rise out of some? I’m new afterall…
OmqR-IV.0 almost 15 years ago
Bait or no bait, the effect was as I described. Oldlegodad, it’s quite difficult to describe just how offensive an apparently offhand taunt, even if not intended with malice but to goad a reply, can be. But I guess you know this well enough, hence your taunt. It was just too offhand so I suspected madness in your method.
No worries Parker, thanks. ;-) If you watch Sasha Baron Cohen movies, including the latest “Brüno”, I think you’ll see a lot of similar baiting. Sometimes, sometimes only then, using such extreme provocation, can one be able to hold up the prejudice that it attracts in order to expose it.
A controversial methodology for sure.
TrickyPickle almost 15 years ago
Magic negro jokes? What? Let’s lighten up a bit folks. I see little wrong with humor that makes fun of each other or plays up stereotypes. If we can’t laugh at ourselves then who can we laugh at?
OmqR-IV.0 almost 15 years ago
(ohoh, I often have a beard)
Anyhow, I was intrigued by Yonalevi’s observation and concluded that he was refering to the headdress (in another post he remarked that the person depicted was Pakistani and not Palestinian which I surmised was because of the traditional attire depicted in the cartoon). Since he’s being rather picky on the clothing, I thought I’d try research it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh
Interesting.
Back to the cartoon…
I thought neither the Americans nor al-Qa’ida are loved in Somalia so why are the Al Shabab on the verge of taking over?
OmqR-IV.0 almost 15 years ago
Oldlegodad: Just watched the video on youtube and a Dutch response to it. As I’m about to head off to the beach with my family I will limit my response:
The video states there 31 countries in the European Union. There are only 27h at present. That was my 1st warning bell (well, not really, the gross exagerations had started from word go) that bs was coming along. The dramatic (American) voice and tone just made me roll my eyes. There is jus S-O M-U-C-H wrong with this scaremongering video…
Argh!
At any rate, a Dutchman’s response (in English):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnpJU31HM0&feature=related
I can read Dutch if anyone would like to read his sources.
Anyhow, without further ado, I’m off to the beach, cheers!