I believe the typical response would be: Your mommy does, yeah. She’s laughing right now.
BAM! You know Ish, if you’re going to play troll games you should at least have skillz above Kindergarten level. That’s three times you’ve tried now and I can tell you: no one is as impressed with you as you are.
Rand to Purple: If you are too lazy to figure out something then just let it go and move on. “Google it” means “I’m not in the mood to do your research. Get off your behind and do it yourself if you are so interested.”.
Rand, your comment was hateful, snide and condescending. That you can’t see that is pretty sad… and the real problem here. You have no mental filter, as is obvious from almost every post you’ve left.
Now, you said you were going to “go do other things”. Instead here you are, still posting more of the same stuff and even repeating yourself. You’re still being rude (increasingly so… while still claiming you’re not). Now, you can give it a rest before you blow a vein… or rant on, whatever floats your boat. At this point I doubt you have the ability to control yourself.
I dunno. The story arc of the last few days have made Pheobe come across as a bit of a snob. And she still doesn’t know what Dakota said to her. In the real world there are people who can “shut out” what others are saying, but that’s usually not considered as a positive trait.
The issue wasn’t you entering the discussion Rand; it was the manner you entered it. Your posts came across as sarcastic and abrasive, from your very first entry (and continue so in your latest). No one “attacked you”; like others I stated a comment such as “Google it” was rude and useless, which is what this whole thread was about. One particular comment you left was blatantly rude; you should expect being called on such (seriously, learn to filter before hitting that Enter key). So since you’re offering nothing but attitude… yes, please go do other things.
My sister and I trade the cart back and forth, depending on who’s more tired. Sometimes we each grab a cart. “Stealth walker”. Luv it. :D
Follow up on posts comparing Covid to the “Spanish” Flu. Some things to note:
Covid is not a flu. Flu and coronavirus are totally different things.
While the Spanish Flu killed more people world wide (it was fact acting and hit undeveloped countries hard), “in the United States about 550,000 people died.” (Encyclopedia Britannica, 675,000 CDC. Records were sketchy back then).
As of today, Covid has killed over 771,000 people in the U.S. alone… making it the most deadly pandemic in U.S. history. (World wide the Spanish Flu was far more deadly… so far.)
Of course, the population of this country in 1918 was 1/3 what it is today. But the major reason for death in 1918 was because they lacked modern medical technology, anti-virus vaccinations, and anti-biotics we have today. In 1918 they didn’t even have penicillin. Our society today would have been far better equipped to handle the Spanish Flu and secondary infections, immunize against it, and treat infected ones. We do so yearly against modern flus that are just as dangerous… but now we have medical treatments. So the Spanish Flu wasn’t “deadlier”; we were just far less-equipped to deal with it.
People are still dying from Covid. There is no predicting the end of the Corona-19 / Delta death rate (or new variants that may come along). Predictions are already surfacing that Covid will reach 800,000 deaths by January 2022… and will continue. Those predictions could easily be under-stated. (The death rates from HIV in 2,000 were double what the medical community predicted in a survey conducted in the 80s.)
So while people naturally compare Covid with the Spanish Flu and even the Black Plague, there really is no comparison. They’re different things. It’s like comparing Covid with the number of people who die from cancer or car accidents. While all three things have significant death totals… the way they occur and the way we deal with them are completely different. Comparison is somewhat irrelevant.
I was just checking statistics: Covid just today passed the 700k U.S. death mark with 701,241 dead.
I’ve been involved in tracking Covid stats since March 3, 2020. The highest Covid increase was in January 2021, when Covid zoomed to over 280,000 new cases per day. As people started masking up and getting vaccinated, those figures started dropping. By the end of June / first half of July this year, we were down to 10,000 to 18,000 new cases per day… the lowest it had been since Covid surged in March 2020.
But then the announcement was made that standards could be “relaxed” and they started sending children back to school, re-opening theaters and restaurants. Now Covid is up to 133,000+ new cases per day and climbing.
Since it’s known the body does not build permanent immunity (thus “herd immunity” is unlikely) and that this virus can be re-contracted… people can’t relax just because “I already had Covid so now I’m safe”. The vaccination is designed to reduce symptoms, keep people out of the hospital, and keep them from dying. It does not prevent us from contracting Covid.
Quality masks (when used properly) reduce the chance of contracting Covid significantly— especially if everyone wears one (which they don’t). But masks are not a 100% guarantee. No one is totally safe from this virus unless they stay isolated in their home and sterilize or isolate every incoming object. Who can do that?
This isn’t the flu. It’s a whole new beast. Vaccination, masks, social distancing and sterilization are all required to have a good chance against contamination.
Seriously, when are people going to stop being so naive? “Hype”? This stuff is real. Ask the loved ones of 701,241 people how real it is… and the 133,594 new cases in the last 24 hours.
“Which has the potential of percolating around in the unvaccinated until a variant pops out that is much worse than the Black Death…”
Good comment. One of the things on my mind is that people aren’t more concerned about a variant coming out that makes Covid-19 and Delta look like the sniffles. Or possibly a new pandemic that will make the Black Death seem mild in comparison.
Has anyone ever seen the movie “93 Days”… and learned how close we came to an Ebola pandemic in 2014?. If we think Covid is bad… imagine what would have happened if Ebola had not been contained to a small area Nigeria due to the heroic call of one doctor.
It’s just reality: Our world is currently ripe for pandemic. We live in crowded, unsanitary cities with world-wide rapid mass-transit. That’s the very recipe for pandemic… as a delayed disease (like Covid) could spread globally in a matter of days before we were even aware of it. Even a quick-reacting pandemic could prove impossible to contain. (It’s estimated a pandemic can go global in 48 hours or less.)
The rule of binary: all it takes is one person to contaminate a city… a nation… the world.
The current “more relaxed” atmosphere we see in the U.S. seems totally unwarranted. And as expected… Covid rates (which were falling) are climbing sky-high again. Have the authorities given up and are now trying for herd immunity? Is that even possible with a virus that can be re-caught?
One does have to wonder about sending children back to school in enclosed classrooms when virtual education is available. Are they trying to get them to catch Covid while they’re still young? A questionable strategy.
I am impressed by the number of well-informed posts above from people who realize that propagandized statistics don’t tell the truth. That’s good to see finally happening. As someone stated, the “low percentage” of deaths, does not negate the (as of this moment) 699,878 people who have died from Covid in the U.S. alone, and the 4,736,492 who have died from it world-wide.
It also doesn’t discuss the people who have been permanently damaged by Covid… since it is a multi-organ damaging disease that can affect kidneys, liver, heart and even the brain. The stats aren’t in yet on long term or even permanent damage / disability from this disease.
Non-hype reality: As of now, one out of eight people in the U.S. have contracted Covid over the last year and a half.
In a country that is one of the most technically advanced on Earth, it’s a sad comment that people with the opinion that Covid is “hype” are largely responsible for the unnecessary deaths (and cases) that could have been prevented had those people taken simple, logical precautions against a pandemic.
It’s sad that the CDC… the organization responsible for protecting our country from such things and that had protocols established… abandoned those protocols and downplayed the potential severity of this disease. That act alone fed the propaganda engine that is still chugging away today. If the CDC (and other agencies) had stood their ground, informed people how pandemics work, and called for emergency preventative measures from the very beginning (even though at that time we didn’t know exactly how Covid worked), they could have prevented tens of thousands… perhaps hundreds of thousands of deaths.
That people are still misinformed and naive about the reality of Covid, after a year and a half of hard data being gathered… and continue to post such things “Covid deaths are hype” on forums such as this… is probably the saddest thing of all.
Rand, I responded respectfully to both you and Ish (until he started trolling, then I gave him back some of his own medicine).
Your opinion in this is just that: your opinion. You get upset when someone disagrees with you. Those aren’t my issues.
If you missed it, several people agreed with my original post. I wasn’t the only person here who commented on “Google it” as being a rude comment. As for Purple, he replied (quote): “Google it” is a rude response. It’s the equivalent of saying “I can’t be bothered to help you. Go figure it out on your own.” If you can’t be bothered to help someone, don’t comment.
…which is basically exactly what I said.
You didn’t make the original comment and Purple wasn’t responding to you; you stuck your nose into a debate that wasn’t yours to start with. It was a simple discussion until someone decided to start getting personal instead of simply discussing the issue.
The points I made were simple statements of reason, neither rude nor hateful. There’s no need for you to get so stressed over a several-days-old molehill issue.