Trump State Funeral: 1) throw body in city owned dumpster. 2) dumpster emptied into city owned sanitation vehicle. 3) contents of sanitation vehicle dumped into public landfill.
We would never have won WWII. Rationing? “No govmint’s gonna tell me how much gas I can buy.” Blackouts? “I’ll turn my lights on whenever I please.” The upside for some would be that we wouldn’t have neo-Nazis, we could have the genuine original variety.
“There’s a light over at the Frankenstein place.”
And what alternate universe are you living in? Do you even read the news?
Agree with all you said. Great chatting with you, stay safe.
See my reply to martens
I too grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. It was a great time to grow up but there were rumblings even then. I remember Orval Faubus standing in the school house door and I believe that is what started me down the road to political awareness. I witnessed the Civil Rights movement as a student and teacher and was naive enough to believe that the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Environmental Protection Agency heralded a new age in the nation. Thinking back to those days brings tears to my eyes because young people thought they could change the world. Now I fear for our future. We no longer have liberal, moderate and conservative wings in both parties. We have a right wing party and center-right to moderate-left party. There is no longer room for compromise. It reminds me of the 1850’s when the great statesman of the early 19th century such as Clay, Calhoun, and Webster passed from the scene to be replaced by people unwilling to find middle ground. I have always believed in reasonable discussion, acceptance of facts, and finding common ground as a way to move forward. A few hours on the internet will show anyone how unlikely that is today. We have a US Senator and President actively trying to persuade election officials to “lose” some votes and appoint electors who will vote for the losing candidate. My hope is that many Republicans will find these actions so repulsive that they will move back into the mainstream, but I’m not optimistic. This brings us back to the main point of the discussion. If the present administration somehow manages to overturn the results of the election is violence justified?
Non-violent protest has been very successful when used against a country that has a tradition of respect for differences of opinion, a respect for life and a judicial system that accepts the concept of human rights. Gandhi’s campaign for India’s independence is the classic example. How would Gandhi have faired under the Nazis, Stalin, or even today’s Russia or China? Would Martin Luther King’s crusade have succeeded in the 19th century or would he have been lynched by the KKK? Having studied and taught history for most of my life there are times when I believe Mao was right when he said that power comes from the barrel of a gun. A sad state of affairs but sometimes unfortunately true.
Interesting philosophical question. At what point does violence become necessary and justified? Read the Declaration of Independence. Was the French Revolution justified? The Russian? Did and do occupied countries have the right to liberate themselves? Were von Stauffenberg and his compatriots justified in attempting to assassinate Hitler?
Have faith! There are many votes that haven’t been counted and most are from urban areas where Biden is winning 75% of the vote. Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan look like they will go for Biden. Georgia and North Carolina are still on the table and Philadelphia and Pittsburgh should deliver Pennsylvania to Biden. If Trump was confident, he wouldn’t be demanding an end to the counting.