Lisa Benson for October 07, 2010

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    rockngolfer  over 13 years ago

    Help! I found out if I don’t understand a comic ,google, bing etc seem to send me in futile pursuit of undomesticated waterfowl.

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    cjkinsey  over 13 years ago

    I believe this has to do with very few solar panels (First Solar being the only one I know of in the US) are actually made here, many of which are made in Spain. Furthermore none of the wind turbines are made here currently.

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    JoeRaisin  over 13 years ago

    Clark Kent said,

    “benson, we need to have a continent wide (Canada, Mexico, USA) wind and solar and solar-thermal power grid and get ourselves off dirty coal and deadly nuclear.”

    “Deadly” nuclear? Really? Do you truly not know about current generation of nuclear plants?.

    Today’s technology makes nuclear a safe, clean option.

    How is it you ignore Hydro?

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    ARodney  over 13 years ago

    Context: Carter put solar panels (hot water) on the White House. Reagan took them off, because he was an oil man, and alternative energy is wussy. Barak Obama is putting solar panels back on (electric, this time) because it makes sense. Benson can’t stand things that make sense, so she’s mocking it. Spain has invested heavily in alternative energy. It’s economy is in the tank… but so is everyone’s including ours, so I don’t think Benson’s making a particularly salient point here.

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    mrdoody  over 13 years ago

    I agree with the first poster, Benson’s thought here is a bit elusive. I think the target is the lack on both nations’ part to design long term energy plans and the subsequent negative economic impacts. The shambles of a PV marked Spain would imply that country’s failure to deal with its lack of a long term energy plan. As pointed out by another poster there is no manufacturing in America so there will be no jobs resulting from Obama’s push for green energy beyond direct government subsidy. Installing PV at the White House is a poor substitute for a comprehensive energy plan.

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    iamthelorax  over 13 years ago

    Thank you Joe! Hydro is a great option, and could be better used if someone invested in means to transport electricity long distances. Niagara Falls is currently running at a small fraction of it’s potential.

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    Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago

    “Green. The religion of the Left. It’s the oldest faith in history.”

    Interestingly though it’s the religion of the Right that gets all of the government’s money.

    Installing solar panels on the White House is a nice gesture… but what would be even better is bringing manufacturing jobs back here, but oh-teh-noes… you actually would have to pay people living wages, and that might hurt a company’s ability to pay their executives insane bonuses.

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    JPTewel  over 13 years ago

    Hydro is a great option and in use today. Check out the Hoover Dam in Arizona.

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    kryteian  over 13 years ago

    I drive by a wind turbine plant everyday, both blades and towers are made here in Colorado, it’s a dutch company but all of the workers are my neighbors so that’s made in the USA.

    CJ get your facts straight and stop watching right wind propaganda. Clean energy is one of the fastest growing industries in Colorado, CU and CSU are leaders in Solar and wind tech and we have produce both, here in my home state, by workers who are my neighbors.

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    mrdoody  over 13 years ago

    Excellent observation Jade.

    Kryteian, It is true that we have some manufacturing and some construction, and some long term service jobs all created in green power. We have to look at the whole picture though and not the individual success stories. My guess is the Dutch company is here to take advantage of subsides offered by our government and an available work force. The Dutch have 260000 vacancies for the whole nation. They also have strong economic growth making the investment in American facilities a win-win situation. This is rare at best. While all that has gone on in Co. China has been dumping below manufacture cost solar cells on the American market to drive out not only American made manufacturers but European suppliers as well. Many solar suppliers and some in Co. have been hurt. Even with the drops in cell prices, the overall cost of a PV install remains about what it was two years ago. This is because most of the support equipment needed, like batteries and aluminum supports, have all gone up dramatically. Our government has stood by and done nothing so as not to aggravate our banker…

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    WarBush  over 13 years ago

    http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/61141/title/Theincredibleshrinkingsolarcell

    Talking about Solar…

    BTW Raisin man do you know who insures those nuclear power plants? WE DO!

    http://tinyurl.com/35m5lj6

    “But what if we stopped insuring them?”

    Then nuclear would go out of business cause no one in their right mind would insure these guys.

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    Dtroutma  over 13 years ago

    Iberdrola, a Spanish based company is the leader in wind energy, and building (tax break pending) a biomass plant in my town. As these foreign-based companies ARE doing most of the alternate energy projects in the U.S., where are “American industries”?? (Part of the problem is the fact that during the Reagan administration, our “energy industry’ became foreign based, mining, oil and gas, et al. because of regulation changes allowing foreign ownership of U.S. public resources.)

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    oneoldhat  over 13 years ago

    over 80% of wind generators purchase with first stim $ were made outside of USA

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    rockngolfer  over 13 years ago

    The military is finally looking into alternative energy after the tankers were burned yesterday

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    Dtroutma  over 13 years ago

    The military has been looking at alternative fuels for some time. They’ve been flying fighters and bombers on “vegetable oil”- electrics are really serious in the UCAS and surveillance unmanned aircraft as well.

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    Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago

    ^ Pretty much. Or at least, that’s why the story has come to light.

    “Fossil fuels have the most energy per pound and per gallon.”

    Actually, stellar matter does (stars, black holes). Well, technically not the black hole itself, but the accreted matter outside of the black hole is one of the most efficient energy sources in the universe, hence why they’re the brightest objects in the universe. We’ve created very basic similar ones in labs (the smaller the black hole the quicker it evaporates, anything smaller than the mass of a human evaporates almost instantaneously), and there’s talk of making a “bigger” one in a few years.
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    dannysixpack  over 13 years ago

    “Today’s technology makes nuclear a safe, clean option. ”

    yes of course it is, especially if we ignore what to do with the waste or how that waste can be used by terrorists.

    of course todays technology makes deep water drilling a safe clean option.

    of course todays technology makes………….

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    myming  over 13 years ago

    what is the point of solar panels if you have to use electricity to run them ?

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