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  1. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago

    Tax Deduction = Subsidy
    Subsidy = Tax Deduction
    Simple Math.

  2. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, over 3 years ago

    A subsidy is not a deduction any more than two men in a life partnership is a marriage, but definitions don’t matter anymore. Let’s just ignore them and make things up as we go.

  3. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, over 3 years ago

    Remember, Obamacare has been legally defined as a tax.

  4. d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release

    d_legendary1 Demands Dr.C's Release said, over 3 years ago


    “A subsidy is not a deduction any more than two men in a life partnership is a marriage, but definitions don’t matter anymore.”

    Re-read doughfoot’s post. He’s talking about mathematics.

  5. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, over 3 years ago

    This is one kind of government interference that the Koch Bros. are okay with.

  6. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 3 years ago


    Remember what you said when they come after your mortgage subsidy.

  7. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    True, get rid of them. Everybody left right agrees on that.

  8. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Just to plug in some actual fact slightly contrary to the cartoon’s assertion, I attached a good link that explains it pretty well.

  9. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 3 years ago

    [suhb-si-dee] Show IPA
    noun, plural sub·si·dies.
    1. a direct pecuniary aid furnished by a government to a private industrial undertaking, a charity organization, or the like.

    tax deduction
    an expenditure that is deducted from taxable income.

    From IRS publication 535, Business Expenses:
    “Depletion is the using up of natural resources by mining, drilling, quarrying stone, or cutting timber. The depletion DEDUCTION allows an owner or operator to account for the reduction of a product’s reserves.” (upper case is mine)

    Labeling a deduction a subsidy may make for good political rhetoric since “subsidy” sounds much worse than “deduction” but muddles the argument. I don’t think I’m being picky here in stating that the argument should be about eliminating the tax DEDUCTION for big oil.

  10. californicated1

    californicated1 said, over 3 years ago

    The problem with the “‘Affordable’ Care Act” as a tax is that it is neither equal nor fair as we would expect our taxes to be, because a private company out there, the health insurance carrier, is still setting the rates by which the customer is being “taxed”.

    What this may mean is that the 30-year-old person out there in Hanna, Wyoming will be paying far less for their health insurance than the 30-year-old in New York or California, even if it is for the same health insurance carrier.

    And as soon as it dawns on everybody the inequities built into this system, there will either be a revolt by “taxpayers” against the very governments that sanction this sort of inequity to begin with, or there will be the long-needed reform like “single-payer” health insurance, where everybody is supposed to pay the same rate for the same plan, which may mean that the private, for-profit health insurance carriers may have to turn themselves into secondary plans that cover what the government-run primary care plan will not.

    Furthermore, it should never be a legal requirement that everybody has to have medical insurance and be held hostage to the very same people that created the health insurance crisis in the first place—the people running those health plans proved that they could not be trusted with keeping prices down and treating everybody equally or fairly, especially when they determined what kind of medical treatment that they would either provide and/or what they would withhold from the people they either insured and/or are supposed to care for, in short, operating their own “death panels” as even Sarah Palin described what a “central plan” would carry out.

    The only thing the “‘Affordable’ Care Act” did was throw the rest of us to these predators that could not get enough money out of the people that already had their coverage.

    The politicians that debated and voted on this act of sedition against the American People are all traitors.

    The bureaucrats in charge with enforcing the laws will be nothing more that aiding and abetting in that treason against the American People and not that different from the Concentration Camp Guards “just following orders” to march people into the ovens or into the gas chambers.

    And the courts, no matter their composition, committed the greatest betrayal of all, by allowing this treason against the People to continue unabated and with their blessing.

  11. Mr. MOR

    Mr. MOR said, over 3 years ago


    And here’s the view from the other side…

  12. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 3 years ago

    The price increase would be 5.5 cents per gallon if the numbers I looked at are correct. At $3.50 to $4.00 per gallon, it’s not a very significant amount but the oil companies will just raise the price at the pump by how much they lose in tax deductions.

  13. DavidGBA

    DavidGBA said, over 3 years ago

    I flash on Thatcher and those subsidized coal mines, ignore history, repeat.

  14. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    The “oil depletion ALLOWANCE” is just one of many “subsidies” to the fossil fuel industry, for decades. Cheap or non-existent royalties for government oil from terrestrial or “off shore” leasing is a “subsidy”. Tax breaks, numerous hidden in codes, are subsidies. BTW, 3% income tax on oil companies paid in U.S., versus the 40+% they pay in foreign countries is on their PROFIT! Taxing the profits is NOT a tax on gross revenue!

    BTW, in New Zealand the price of petrol is over $9 per gallon, and diesel is a little higher! (My daughter and son-in-law have both a petrol, and diesel vehicles. But they also have 15 different bicycles and ride/race for recreation as well as commuting!)

  15. Rickapolis

    Rickapolis said, over 3 years ago

    I’ve a question for all the idiots that use the term’ Obamacare’. Do you know, without prompting, what the actual name of the law is? I bet at least 75% don’t.

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