Ted Rall by Ted Rall

Ted Rall

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  1. Kylie2112

    Kylie2112 said, over 1 year ago

    @old1953

    That’s what I say about that analogy. Or when they say “like a family.” You know, because families never take out mortgages, car loans, student loans, or anything like that that will invest in more future revenue.
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    Republican politicians must have horrible businesses and families.

  2. taratus

    taratus said, over 1 year ago

    Government is not a business. It is not a household. It is a collective social expression of our common needs and desires for fairness, order, and security. It is an extension of each of us and all of us. And, some of us still like to war, ya’ll.

  3. JmcaRice

    JmcaRice GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    16 Trillion in national debt and climbing. We all pay the interest on this year after year. Do the math . . . for your grandkids sake.

  4. Ransom D Stone

    Ransom D Stone said, over 1 year ago

    @taratus

    Your post makes sense! You clearly do not understand that Rall posts are reserved for Trolls!

  5. Mephistopholes

    Mephistopholes GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    You are Dead wrong here Mr. Rall. Our country’s spending is out of control by any rational standard. And those arbitrary standards to which you refer are the thresholds beyond which lenders will start demanding much higher interest rates to fund our government. Look at Greece, Cyprus, Ireland, Spain, Portugal and it doesn’t take long to understand the very real and bleak picture for our country if we don’t get our spending under control.

    Where I think you and I DO agree is on where we should start cutting. I have long decried the Military Industrial complex that seems to consume an enormous amount of our Federal Budget. After that maybe we can look at reducing our domestic security budget by: Closing Federal prisons and turning out people who’s only crime was to consume/use/distribute drugs, Eliminate the Gropers at the airport that want to inspect every body that comes through, Stop testing every child 3 or 4 times to make sure that they are getting their fair share of education, and the list goes on an on of things the Federal Government does because somebody wanted to control somoene else’s behavior.

    Back to the original point though: That money we are spending today is coming out of the wallets of my kids and grandkids down the road. If it really was an investment in the future that would be one thing but it isn’t. Much of that money goes into largess to be buttered onto selfish voters who want their freebies at someone else’s expense….Free Phone, Free Phone, Obama got me a Free Phone.

  6. ARodney

    ARodney said, over 1 year ago

    Spending is not out of control by ANY standard. The deficit has fallen by half since Obama took office, and is a perfectly reasonable percentage of GDP. In a recession, the government SHOULD be spending more to get the economy moving, at which point we can close tax loopholes, adjust rates upwards to a rational point, and have a functioning country again. Imagine if we were in a war and the Republicans were pulling the financial blackmail they’ve been doing to kill the government! (Oh, that’s right, we are in a war. It’s easy to forget.)

  7. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, over 1 year ago

    @old1953

    You can use a lot of business common sense to run a good government. You make good personnel choices, you don’t pour money down obvious ratholes, when a program is ineffective or even counterproductive you don’t double or triple its budget. The aims of govt are not the same as business, but good management and administration work anywhere.

  8. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, over 1 year ago

    @Kylie2112

    Check out the differences between states that have tended to be run by Democrats as compared to those run by Republicans. Enlightening.

  9. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, over 1 year ago

    @ARodney

    The deficit has emphatically not fallen since Obama took office. Where do you get your numbers?

  10. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, over 1 year ago

    @jrmerm

    Right here (deficits from Whitehouse website):
    2008: $459 billion
    2009: $1.4 trillion
    2012: $1.3 trillion (est)

  11. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, over 1 year ago

    @Ms. Ima

    The Capitalists/Christians would be the firing squad.

  12. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, over 1 year ago

    @Mephistopholes

    Our spending is too low at this time. Make the rich and the criminal Fed banks pay. Also prosecute the leaders of those banks.
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    Austerity during a Depression leads to a deeper Depression, riots then martial law. Is that what you want?

  13. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, over 1 year ago

    @Michael wme

    Thanks Mw, but this is something that ARodney must do for him/her/it-self. Actually looking up the numbers and confronting the truth is the only way to cure this.

  14. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, over 1 year ago

    @Night-Gaunt49

    Look at the trend in the Federal budget over the last ten years. How in the world can you claim there is any “austerity”?

  15. californicated1

    californicated1 said, over 1 year ago

    @Mephistopholes

    Tough talk coming from a commenter who says his family has only been here 125 years.

    Leave it to the families who have actually been here since the colonies and even had members die in the wars that built this country that you don’t seem to mind living in.

    And when it comes to “Accounting Practices”, keep in mind that no business out there prints its own money, but has to rely on the government that is sovereign in the territory in which the business operates to ensure that there is a healthy climate by which to do business and when it comes to “Accounting Principles” that businesses use, they are varied and don’t always work from one business to the next, from one country to the next.

    For example, there used to be this standalone company in Miliptas, California that was telling its employees at the “all hands” meeting that they used the French version of the GAAP to determine the country’s health because the French version made the company look better on paper and to stockholders—the majority of them French—than the American version of the GAAP.

    And when asked by one of the employees at the “all hands” meeting why American GAAP methods were not followed, the president of the company had no answer other than that is what the stockholders recommended.

    A government, by its very nature is not a business.

    A business has a specific purpose out there by which it can provide either goods or services to meet that specific purpose and make money and net a profit by meeting that specific purpose.

    A government has mulitiple purposes out there and can provide many things to the people it governs and it has to answer to the people it serves and meet their needs, be it the need to set up an economy by which people and businesses conduct their transactions, to the common defense, to even their general welfare and domestic tranquillity—just like the Preamble in the US Constitution—and nowhere is it written that the government must make a profit any more than the government must operate at a loss, because when it comes to the purposes of government, their priority is to provide their services to the people they serve, regardless, which a business can not do.

    A business, in performing its specific purposes, can exclude customers and go after specific marketshares and tailor its niches as they see fit.

    A government must provide for all the people it governs and can not exclude anybody that is not in its sovereign territory for any reason, including income level, nationality, immigration status, legal status, skin color, religion, creed, etc..

    And when it comes to government, its purposes are to govern the governed and provide for their needs, regardless of what it may cost and whether or not it operates on a profit or loss doing that, otherwise, that government would not be governing and when it comes to matters like national defense, you would probably want that government to operate in a way that it would provide the greatest security to all the people—descendants of the immigrants that came to this country 125 years ago or the descendants of the colonists like me—regardless of the cost.

    And that is probably where one has to discuss such economic terms as “opportunity costs” and “total costs” and that a government has to function in these terms rather than “profit-to-earnings” or “profit-and-loss” terms, which really mean nothing to a government, especially when the purposes it serves come first before anything else and that it can even generate its own money and even dictate the terms by which others under its jurisdiction can conduct their business in its sovereign territory.

    So “running government like a business” does not really make sense—even though it is a nice political slogan used by politicians and even business-people like Meg Whitman to seek out public office after making their wealth conducting business.

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