Rudy Park by Darrin Bell and Theron Heir

Rudy Park

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  1. pschearer

    pschearer said, 7 months ago

    When has climate ever NOT changed? But there is still no proof that human activity has anything to do with it. And even if it did, that doesn’t justify drastic regulation of the entire economy, which has always been the goal of the Warmies all along.

  2. Judy Waddle

    Judy Waddle said, 7 months ago

    @pschearer

    Thousands of scientists are dumber than you are????

  3. Alan Miller

    Alan Miller said, 7 months ago

    Anyone that says there is no proof the current unprecedented drastic climate change is not caused by human activity is willfully ignorant to the point of malfeasance.

  4. Doctor Toon

    Doctor Toon said, 7 months ago

    Regardless of whether or not Climate Change is in part caused by man, reducing pollution and cleaning up the environment is still a good idea

  5. Ray Thomas

    Ray Thomas said, 7 months ago

    The incidence of bad weather is not proof of global warming or whatever Al calls it now.

  6. kerb berk

    kerb berk said, 7 months ago

    Have we fogotten or just ignored the history of science?

    It was a “fact” that the Earth was the center of the solar system and it was a “fact” that the Earth was flat because a majority believed it so.

    Just because a majority of scientists believe a thing to be true, does not make it so. Facts are facts even when everyone believes something completely at odds with those facts.

    The current environment within the scientific community (including that fostered by those who provide funding) is very similar in regard the those taking the “global climate change is a modern scientific fraud” as it was in the days of Galileo Galilei and Nicolaus Copernicus.

    Just as those men were reviled in their day, so are the people of today who say that “Yes, the global climate is changing, but it has always been in flux and will always be in flux.” In the days of Galileo and Copernicus (why was one known by his first name, the other by his last??), the opposition to their ideas came mainly from the Catholic Church.

    Then the church was central. Today it is despised or ignored by many. The teachings of Scripture indicate clearly that global climate change, though it may occur, will never be catastrophic (Genesis 8:22: “As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.” [NIV]). This would, I believe, be the position of the church today.

    But today it is not the church that is attempting to suppress an opposing view. The shoe is on the other foot it seems.

  7. pschearer

    pschearer said, 7 months ago

    @Judy Waddle

    Don’t forget the thousands of scientists who don’t agree with man-made global warming, especially after their research has been misused and their careers threatened.

  8. pschearer

    pschearer said, 7 months ago

    @Alan Miller

    Willfully ignorant you say? And so are you to the true intentions of the Warmists. Marx couldn’t convince the world to let them run the economy, so now they are trying the global warming scare. Watermelons: green on the outside, red on the inside.

  9. pschearer

    pschearer said, 7 months ago

    @Doctor Toon

    True, Toon, but neither of those goals requires the kind of shackling of the economy these people advocate.

  10. ronald rini

    ronald rini said, 7 months ago

    Not sure but I was just looking a some hiking spots in ohio where the ice flow and cold has made valley that you can walk thru . Hum dino farts I bet

  11. rvernon

    rvernon said, 7 months ago

    @kerb berk

    That’s not what that scripture means. It’s not about climate change, it’s about prosperity and charity.

  12. rvernon

    rvernon said, 7 months ago

    @kerb berk

    ….and your comparison falls flat. The Church was about as anti-science as you can get. You can’t say the same thing about the scientific community.

  13. Gee Man

    Gee Man said, 7 months ago

    @kerb berk

    No, majority opinion does not make facts; on the other hand, the instances you cite are examples of doctrine or ideology being used to trump empirical observations. The overwhelming concensus of scientists with the relevant training is that anthropogenic global warming is real. The basic facts are easily understood – atmospheric CO2 levels have increased by ~40% in around 140 years, a degree of change over essentially a blink in time for which there is no precedent in earth’s history going back tens of millions of years. The relationship between CO2 levels and average global temperatures is well studied and understood.
    Those deniers of anthropogenic climate change who point out that earth’s climate has always changed are willfully ignoring that current changes in atmospheric CO2 levels, and global average temperatures, are orders of magnitude faster and greater than historic climate variations, even the Paleocene-Eocene thermal maximimum (PETM), ~55 million years ago. That even saw the sort of climate change we are expecting over the next century, take place over ~20,000 years. PETM did not kill all life on earth, but it did make huge changes to the environment for both plants and animals, with many not surviving.

    The reason the scientific community pays little heed to the climate change deniers is because those individuals (and the movement is at it’s core a small number of individuals, sponsored by groups with clear agendas, such as the Heritage Foundation) aren’t presenting scientific papers or research to back their claims – they largely operate outside the realm of peer-reviewed science (eg., popular media), and use pseudo-science and misrepresentation to advance their cases outside of science. Deniers operate outside of traditional science not because they are oppressed by dogmatic convention, but because their position essentially amounts to people coming along after Galileo and Newton, and trying to say the earth is still the centre of the universe. They simply choose to disregard reams of empirical evidence, in favour of their position that “we need change nothing, the earth (or, often God in one form or another) will look after itself, it/He always does.”

  14. Phil

    Phil said, 7 months ago

    Interesting facts regarding climate change ( here: http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

  15. rvernon

    rvernon said, 7 months ago

    @Phil

    Excellent site, thanks.

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