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  1. petergrt

    petergrt said, about 4 years ago

    That is funny.

    Not quite apples to apples though.

    For one thing, Massachusetts is a state, and the laws were negotiated and enacted fairly openly and had a broad by-partisan support.

  2. leerab78

    leerab78 said, about 4 years ago

    I don’t see any difference besides “state” and “BI-partisan support”

  3. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, about 4 years ago

    Irrelevant, petergrt, since the Obama plan has elements explicitly based on RomneyCare – which was praised highly by Republicans at the time, because it included individual instead of government focus. Those elements are in the healthcare reform bill – and are NOT what Obama would personally prefer. In fact, it is arguably more a Republican plan than a Democratic one. And the lack of bipartisan support in the Congress is a red herring. The more germane question is why the GOP wants to deny its own child now.

  4. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 GoComics PRO Member said, about 4 years ago

    Yeah, the Mass. model. Too bad it’s failing and asking the Fed for a bailout.

    But the national plan will cut the deficit. Yeah……

  5. Fairportfan2

    Fairportfan2 GoComics PRO Member said, about 4 years ago

    Andy - have you ever read the last clause of Section 8, Article I?

    SInce the Federal Government is charged with the regulation of Interstate Commerce, and since, insurance is, in our society, an interstate business, that so-called “Elastic Clause”,m which trumps Amendment X, gives the feds the power to do anything they want about insurance.

  6. petergrt

    petergrt said, about 4 years ago

    ” … insurance is, in our society, an interstate business …”

    Ever tried to by ‘medical insurance’ across state lines?

    In fact, most states, if not all, have special bureaucracy to control ALL INSURANCE - hence STATE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER(S).

    Unfortunately, the Commerce Clause is the most misused part of the original Constitution.

    “[The Congress shall have power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes;”

  7. petergrt

    petergrt said, about 4 years ago

    “The more germane question is why the GOP wants to deny its own child now.”

    So, when we’ll see the destructive effects of this grotesquely corrupt federal legislation, you will be justified to blame the Republicans.

  8. Senhor Peep

    Senhor Peep GoComics PRO Member said, about 4 years ago

    Yes, Petergrt, true. They can’t blame Bush forever.

    The IRS is already set up to place fines. Hey if anyone’s looking for a job I hear the IRS is looking lots of help fining Americans who don’t have health care,. See, BO is creating jobs.

  9. Richard Holgate

    Richard Holgate GoComics PRO Member said, about 4 years ago

    they’re both wrong

  10. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, about 4 years ago

    Let’s see, I’m in New York, and for a number of years my insurer was Blue Cross Blue Shield of Georgia. Purchased through a company in Virginia.

    Before that my health insurer aswas the health insurer of many many employees of the corporation I worked for, across 50 states was Aetna.

    So tell me again about how insurers can’t cross state lines?

  11. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, about 4 years ago

    And this routine about the IRS being after the non insureds.

    What kind of lefto pinkies are you “conservatives” anyway? All of a sudden you’re all about the law breaker and against the law enforcers? Kinda like when you were against the FBI because they were against the militias, right? Then you were all “Law and Order is paramount” after 9/11 and now here you are again, siding with the law breakers! Have you no shame?

    If you don’t have insurance and you wind up in the hospital after a car wreck who is going to have to pay for you to get stitched back together? The tax payer!

    Somehow, the Pinkoe Right is A-OK with forcing us to spend our tax money to cover these goldbricks!

    You got no insurance? You were in an accident? Fine the prison doctor will be right with you, just as soon as we get you processed!

  12. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, about 4 years ago

    petergrt, “grotesquely corrupt federal legislation”? Oh, c’mon. After the lying to get us into Iraq? The no-bid contracts for the Vice-President’s own company? The oil and gas executives like famous fraudster Ken Lay writing our “energy policy” with the VP, who forbade anyone to see what the discussion was about or even who was in the meeting (officially)? This legislation would have to go a long, long way to catch up with the Bush Administration.

  13. ChrystalNotCrystal

    ChrystalNotCrystal said, about 4 years ago

    I live in MA, both are cr*p.

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