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  1. wolfhoundblues1

    wolfhoundblues1 said, almost 3 years ago

    The end game is socialized health service.

  2. Enoki

    Enoki said, almost 3 years ago

    The end game is to Fundamentally transform America into a Third World country. Obama just didn’t finish the sentence.

  3. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago

    @Enoki

    Vested interests in the insurance, medical, and military industries have been slowly transforming America into a third world country for decades. Delivery of affordable quality health care to the masses is worse than some third world countries.

  4. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago

    @wolfhoundblues1

    “…..The end game is socialized health service…..”
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    No the end game is affordable quality health care for the masses that will bring America up to world standards for developed countries.

  5. eugene57

    eugene57 said, almost 3 years ago

    @Gypsy8

    Soooo… bring the pharmaceutical companies under control, (how many doctors “learn” about medical care from salemen? HOw many drugs are worse then what they are to treat, and need other drugs for the side effects.){how many non-profit hospital spend exorbitantly to remain “non-profit”?}etc, etc,etc.

  6. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago

    @eugene57

    ^I don’t know. Probably lots and lots.

  7. Stipple

    Stipple said, almost 3 years ago

    I am guessing you just woke up and the keyboard is still blurry.
    Could you rephrase that to where it makes some sense?

  8. PianoGuy24

    PianoGuy24 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/10/31/forbes-obama-officials-predicted-2010-93-million-would-lose-health-pl#ixzz2jJGbh1b1
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    And somehow there’s people STILL defending Obama!!!

  9. DGF999

    DGF999 said, almost 3 years ago

    You libs are insane.

  10. PianoGuy24

    PianoGuy24 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Hey, Re-run, if it WASN’T for Obamacare, insurance companies wouldn’t be needing to adjust their policies to conform to the ACA. Are you implying that 93 million people would have been tossed off of their policies if Obamacare HADN’T come along? C’mon, man, THINK!

  11. Enoki

    Enoki said, almost 3 years ago

    @Gypsy8

    Got a list of which ones? (Third World countries with better health care systems than the US prior to Obamacare… or after it for that matter…)
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    As for those “vested interests” ones like Left leaning politicians, labor unions, various government entities, and others in the public sector have certainly been doing that…

  12. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 3 years ago

    Question for the Republicans/Fox “news” viewers:
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    If Obamacare is now controlling the entire medical industry, how can any insurance company cancel a policy?

  13. Enoki

    Enoki said, almost 3 years ago

    Yea, the WHO who largely measures how good a health care system is on how socialist it is.

    http://www.photius.com/rankings/world_health_systems.html

    The US ranks 1st in outcomes and responsiveness. Where it fails is in such idiotic measures such as “Fairness.”

    So, while Cuba can’t keep clinics stocked with bandaids and asprin it is ranked higher because everybody doesn’t get medical care making it a much Fairer system.

  14. Enoki

    Enoki said, almost 3 years ago

    Your second entry is a logical fallacy in that it makes an irrelevant appeal to consequences.
    Outside the last item on that list, highest rate of women dying due to complications of pregnancy and childbirth, every other one is not directly a result of the US health care system.
    For example, highest rate of death by car accident has far more to do with Americans driving far more and often at higher speeds than people in the other nations on that list. That has ZERO to do with health care or the driver’s health.
    Coronary disease has more to do with lifestyle an other personal choices than health care by providers.
    Lung disease? Same thing.
    Teen pregnancy? The health care system isn’t getting them pregnant.
    So, this argument by you is a logical absurdity.

  15. Gypsy8

    Gypsy8 said, almost 3 years ago

    @Enoki

    “…..Got a list of which ones?…..
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    Other respondents have provided three rankings of world health care systems and the findings are consistent – the U.S. ranks at or near the bottom of developed countries. To be fair, the U.S. would rank high in medical tecknology and medical training but stinks when it comes to providing affordable quality health care to the masses. From your response, I presume the rankings do not fit with your pre-conceived notions. Unfortunately they are what they are, and many are coming to the realization of what others have known for a long time – that the U.S. system is in bad need of reform.

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