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  1. Enoki

    Enoki said, 12 months ago

    Jen, I had mumps as a kid, chicken pox too. Even got a MRSA and survived.
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    Diseases are overrated…

  2. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 12 months ago

    @Enoki

    You are appalling. The best defense for ALL of us is to get vaccinated. This is well known.
    “Disease is overrated”? Oh, yeah? How about the flu that killed more people than WWI? Polio that crippled children for life? And the many people who got mumps and got neurological damage or other problems?
    It used to be that pools closed because of polio, and thousands died every year because of mumps and measles, and the ONLY reason why that isn’t true today is because of vaccination.
    And because of “herd immunity,” the more people are vaccinated, the harder still it is for anyone to get infected, but you need a critical mass to ensure that.
    For God’s sake — and your own, and your children’s — get vaccinated.

  3. AlnicoV

    AlnicoV said, 12 months ago

    Prior to school districts making vaccinations mandatory it was often policy that there was to be expected at least one death due communicable disease per school year in a class of students. Around 3% total, annually. Is that really something we want to go back to?

  4. omQ R

    omQ R said, 12 months ago

    Wow, this is topical for me. My anecdote: 4 days ago I went out to lunch with a group of work colleagues. One was a contractor who has been in my dept. 2 only months. We had car pooled 5 into 1 car and driving back to work, the guy went on about various conspiracy theories, including the pharmaceutical industry, which led to, of course, he loudly accusing them of fooling the world about vaccination. His words clearly showed he misunderstood the term “herd immunity”. The car had already gone quiet with the other occupants not wanting to poke further into this guy’s nest but since I was in the passenger front seat, I wasn’t aware he was already frothing at the mouth and I soldiered on, asking him, disbelievingly, about sources. Man, what did I do? The guy YELLED about FACTS, baby, FACTS, I’ve done my research, have you? I have FACTS!”. I replied that I not done any medical research but would be happy to read peer reviewed articles or a thesis which contested the validity of vaccination programmes and research that autism was caused by vaccination. Wow, that kicked off another tirade which had the driver asking me under his breath to not unsettle the nutter anymore, and then loudly changing the subject.


    My wife asked me last night about why I sometimes choose to not confront some of my colleagues and at other times I do ( I had mentioned overhearing another colleague’s homophobic outrage about Conchita Wurst winning the Eurovision contest but I had left the room instead and went home). I explained about office politics and some common sense depending on the context and position of the person ranting.
    When these denialists are confronted, they really go nuts. Shouting down the opposition is their only recourse. Well, not the only recourse. Fortunately, in the UK Going Postal is rare but I didn’t want to create another notch on UK’s belt. And my job pays far too well for me to lose it getting into a fisticuff fight with some of the loons I work with.

  5. piobaire

    piobaire said, 12 months ago

    @AlnicoV

    That is a stunning thought about schools. I can easily see how it would be true. There were at least two such deaths amongst my forebears in my grandmothers’ time.

    That is definitely not something I’d like to see happening again.

    Do you have any links? I’ll pick up the thread tonight, when I get from my work — as an educator.
    Best wishes.

  6. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, 12 months ago

    There are even people in Germany who try to mislead the public into this madness of refusing immunization. Luckily we have laws against it, so if you refuse they put you in jail and take your child. Easy, isn’t it?

  7. wmconelly

    wmconelly said, 12 months ago

    Anti-science, anti-healthcare, anti-education and critical thinking: signposts on the way back to the Good Old Middle Ages, back when The Gold Standard and The Black Death went hand in hand.

  8. mikefive

    mikefive said, 12 months ago

    @piobaire

    “That is a stunning thought about schools.”

    Since schools are sometimes involved in immunization, you may find this site of interest. Adobe or Excel required.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/nis/teen/data/tables-2012.html

  9. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 12 months ago

    I got measles and mumps as a child. And the pertussis inoculation. Doesn’t work. Many of those inoculated are coming down with pertussis. Meanwhile, the left-wing media is saying it’s just those children 7 to 16 who weren’t inoculated, and I was definitely NOT in the 7 – 16 age group when I got pertussis and I HAD BEEN inoculated (about three score years before I got it).


    A LOT of inoculated adults came down with pertussis in my city (some diagnosed, many ignoring it), so I suspect the 48,277 reported cases is a gross misunderestimate of the true total.

  10. geometer2

    geometer2 said, 12 months ago

    I was in a car wreck without a seat belt or airbag and only got a scratch! I guess that means no one needs seat belts or airbags! Duh!!!!

  11. Ted Lind

    Ted Lind GoComics PRO Member said, 12 months ago

    Pertussis vaccination does have some issues. Like most it does not provide 100% protection however the best strategy is to vaccinate everyone. Here is an article that talks about the issues. http://www.wired.com/2012/08/pertussis-vax-effectiveness/

  12. loricty

    loricty said, 12 months ago

    very foolish thinking by all of you….

  13. MeGoNow

    MeGoNow said, 12 months ago

    I like to think there’s a critical thinking gene, and things like this help clean out the pool.

  14. Kip W

    Kip W said, 12 months ago

    I had chicken pox, so now I can look forward to the possibility of getting shingles later on. All in all, I’d as soon have gone to school as spent those miserable, boring days lying around and trying not to scratch.

  15. lonecat

    lonecat said, 12 months ago

    These diseases show the difference between individual problems and social problems. When a person has contracted measles, that person needs to be treated as an individual. But the spread of measles is social, and therefore the prevention of measles is a social problem which needs a social solution — in this case, vaccination.
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    This idea can be extended. In my classes I have a few lazy students. That’s an individual problem, and it needs an individual solution. But I also note that almost all of my students have problems with grammar and composition. That’s a social problem; the cause is the decision some years back that grammar would no longer be taught in primary and secondary school. I can’t blame the individual students when the system is not offering them what they need. The solution is social — we need to go back to teaching grammar.
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    If a person is unemployed in a booming economy, probably that’s an individual problem. But when there is mass unemployment, the problem is social and it needs a social solution.
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    That’s my concept of socialism. When a problem is social, it needs a social solution. Traditional capitalism (based on what used to be called liberalism) doesn’t recognize social problems; traditional liberalism thinks that all problems are individual. According to Margaret Thatcher there are no groups in society, just individuals. She’s just wrong. There are groups, and there are social problems. Those social problems need social solutions.

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