The trout has bought the moral equivalency BS hook, line, and sinker. There is only one nation of the two whose elected president has steadfastly and consistently called for the utter destruction of the other. (Extra credit, trout, if you can admit Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map.)
There is NOTHING demonstrating equality of the two in that rhetoric. Trout, on the other hand, is demonstrating typical shallow non-thinking in repeating the same old, tired, and outright wrong canard.
Israel has not and will not call for the destruction of any other nation, but in trout’s world it is still as much the aggressor as Iran and its ilk.
The saddest part is how trout typifies the lack of thought that masquerades as critical thinking these days. The popularity of “blame Israel” will bring ruin upon us all when, too late to avoid it, the world finds itself as much a target then as Israel is today.
Then there’s Hagee who wants to wipe the whole world clean, and only supports Israel because when they all get wiped out and “convert”- he thinks he’ll be in charge.
BTW something like 30 of the last 38 attacks by one country on another, have been launched by Israel. Ahmadinijad said he wanted Israel wiped off the map because the land was stolen, Hagee’s view is MUCH weirder!
Extra credit, Wabac, if you, with your great knowledge of Farsi could point to just where Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad «vowed to wipe Israel off the map» ! Unlike Israel, which has started many wars of aggression during the modern state’s brief history, modern Iran has never done so. Iran is a signatory of the NPT, has no nuclear weapons, and claims not be seeking them, Israel refuses to sign the NPT, is estimated to have between 100 and 200 nuclear warheads and the means with which to deliver them, and refuses to allow discussion of the issue (as you may know, Mordechai Vanunu sat 18 years in an Israeli prison for daring to reveal the fact of Israeli nuclear weaponry). Who has reason to be afraid of whom ?…
dtroutma said, “…30 o fthe last 38 attacks… have been launched by Israel.”
Only someone who has deliberately ignored the daily shelling of Sderot can have the temerity to lay blame upon Israel for aggression. Fighting back for wanton attacks upon ones land and people is a legal defensive battle. Firing rockets and shells at civilians to maximize terror and drive people from their INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED nation is an illegal and morally reprehensible act.
Your attempt at moral equivalency demonstrates the shallowness of your reasoning with regard to Israel. Shame on you, you are smarter than that.
mhenriday said, “…where Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed to wipe Israel off the map…”
Where have you been hiding? He has said it so many times it is barely registering on news broadcasts anymore. He and Iran have actively worked to that end with their sponsorship of hezbollah and other proxies surrounding and infiltrating into Israel.
Having made an indefensible statement that “I’m a dinner jacket” did not vow to wipe out Israel, you now are attempting to hijack the conversation by redirecting attention away from your absurdity by casting innuendo. Whether or not Israel has nukes has never been officially acknowledged - though few on either side will argue they likely do not - their (possibly) having them is immaterial to the point that Iran’s elected leader wants to destroy Israel. That is the relevant point of discussion, not childish crying “its not fair! Israel has nuclear toys and we want them too!” Some toys should never be shared with avowed homicidal maniacs. If you cannot recognize the difference of intent from Iran and its proxies versus from Israel then I can only conclude it is because you do not want to.
MaryWorth Premium Member almost 15 years ago
That is one scary Pez dispenser!
CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Dale; LOL!
Dtroutma almost 15 years ago
Isn’t that just a Hasidic? Symbols that are hard to segregate without the words often demonstrate that both sides may be just as crazy?
Wabac almost 15 years ago
The trout has bought the moral equivalency BS hook, line, and sinker. There is only one nation of the two whose elected president has steadfastly and consistently called for the utter destruction of the other. (Extra credit, trout, if you can admit Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map.)
There is NOTHING demonstrating equality of the two in that rhetoric. Trout, on the other hand, is demonstrating typical shallow non-thinking in repeating the same old, tired, and outright wrong canard.
Israel has not and will not call for the destruction of any other nation, but in trout’s world it is still as much the aggressor as Iran and its ilk.
The saddest part is how trout typifies the lack of thought that masquerades as critical thinking these days. The popularity of “blame Israel” will bring ruin upon us all when, too late to avoid it, the world finds itself as much a target then as Israel is today.
Dtroutma almost 15 years ago
Then there’s Hagee who wants to wipe the whole world clean, and only supports Israel because when they all get wiped out and “convert”- he thinks he’ll be in charge.
BTW something like 30 of the last 38 attacks by one country on another, have been launched by Israel. Ahmadinijad said he wanted Israel wiped off the map because the land was stolen, Hagee’s view is MUCH weirder!
mhenriday almost 15 years ago
Extra credit, Wabac, if you, with your great knowledge of Farsi could point to just where Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad «vowed to wipe Israel off the map» ! Unlike Israel, which has started many wars of aggression during the modern state’s brief history, modern Iran has never done so. Iran is a signatory of the NPT, has no nuclear weapons, and claims not be seeking them, Israel refuses to sign the NPT, is estimated to have between 100 and 200 nuclear warheads and the means with which to deliver them, and refuses to allow discussion of the issue (as you may know, Mordechai Vanunu sat 18 years in an Israeli prison for daring to reveal the fact of Israeli nuclear weaponry). Who has reason to be afraid of whom ?…
Henri
Wabac almost 15 years ago
dtroutma said, “…30 o fthe last 38 attacks… have been launched by Israel.”
Only someone who has deliberately ignored the daily shelling of Sderot can have the temerity to lay blame upon Israel for aggression. Fighting back for wanton attacks upon ones land and people is a legal defensive battle. Firing rockets and shells at civilians to maximize terror and drive people from their INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED nation is an illegal and morally reprehensible act.
Your attempt at moral equivalency demonstrates the shallowness of your reasoning with regard to Israel. Shame on you, you are smarter than that.
Wabac almost 15 years ago
mhenriday said, “…where Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed to wipe Israel off the map…”
Where have you been hiding? He has said it so many times it is barely registering on news broadcasts anymore. He and Iran have actively worked to that end with their sponsorship of hezbollah and other proxies surrounding and infiltrating into Israel.
Having made an indefensible statement that “I’m a dinner jacket” did not vow to wipe out Israel, you now are attempting to hijack the conversation by redirecting attention away from your absurdity by casting innuendo. Whether or not Israel has nukes has never been officially acknowledged - though few on either side will argue they likely do not - their (possibly) having them is immaterial to the point that Iran’s elected leader wants to destroy Israel. That is the relevant point of discussion, not childish crying “its not fair! Israel has nuclear toys and we want them too!” Some toys should never be shared with avowed homicidal maniacs. If you cannot recognize the difference of intent from Iran and its proxies versus from Israel then I can only conclude it is because you do not want to.