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ViewsEurope by CartoonArts International for January 06, 2011

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    DjGuardian  almost 11 years ago

    Wow… and wasn’t Germany rated as the most trusted country? That’s why they were chosen as a moderator in a at least one circumstance (i think with the Georgia-Russia issue, if my memory serves me right).

    More than anything, this strip surprised me. What’s going on to cause this? Did they lose their veto power and simply just have a seat at the table?

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    pirate227  almost 11 years ago

    The poor Germans, for some reason other countries don’t trust them. What could it be?

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    DjGuardian  almost 11 years ago

    Forgive me Michael, you are right. Somehow I thought they were granted a seat recently, but I must have been thinking of another UN branch. Much has changed with the UN including that fact of countries like Iran are elected to the UN Commission on Women’s Rights (however foolish and hypocritical the appointment), which is a reasonably new division. I do a poor job of remembering what branch does what and why and who is in it sometimes. Mainly cause I think the UN is a joke and useless.

    My initial point was a surprise that they don’t have a seat with veto power. Somehow I thought they did. I think the intent of the strip was to propose the inanity one of the most highly esteemed members of the EU does not.

    The problem relates to the answer of your ”The US insisted on this for reasons that escape me…” issue, which your point didn’t make sense to me considering you knowledge of the China thing.

    Each of the allies of the US in WWII was granted a seat. Since the Republic of China (Taiwan) was one, they got the seat. Nixon erred at letting it go to the PRC, but they had essentially usurped the whole of China.

    The reality is I don’t care. The UN has no beneficial goal or purpose. Give Germany a permanent seat, rip them all out, make a temporary seat with veto power and give it to Germany first… I don’t care. But the initial decision to offer sole seats to the primary allies makes sense.

    But thanks for referring to me as “young.” I appreciate that.

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 11 years ago

    I was on urbandictionary.com and somebody wrote that Canada has the largest french-speaking population that never surrendered to Germans, ever. there was also this joke;

    “I met this really cool girl. She’s a native speaker of French.” “And since you have German blood, her bleeep must come in two seconds?” “No, she’s French Canadian.” “Oh, French Canadian? Nevermind then.”

    ROFLMAO!!!

    Sooky Rottweiler says; Don’t tell anyone, but she’s been telling that joke non stop since she developped a crush on some german male pornstar… :D. The girl in that scenewith him must have been polish or something.

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    4uk4ata  almost 11 years ago

    @ Michael - I believe it was always meant to be China, right? The problem was which China goverment was considered as legitimate.

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    ChukLitl Premium Member almost 11 years ago

    The vetos went to the winning allies of WWII. When the Chinese seat at the UN went to the mainland, it made sense because those with nuclear weapons had vetos.

    If they’d never surrendered to the Germans, they’d be Gauls, not Franks, & the Britons wouldn’t be Anglic.

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 11 years ago

    ^I know the feeling. If we had never been conquered by the british, we’d still be New France.

    Same on a personal level; we all faced hard times in our lives. Turned us into who we are.

    Thanks for that pearl of wisdom, Chuk. You made my day.

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    OmqR-3.0  almost 11 years ago

    This represents my biggest peeve about the UN: The security council’s permanent members with veto. It matters not to me how many few they might add to the WW-II winner’s circle (like Germany, Brazil, South Africa or India), it still means a select few countries control veto. That is unacceptable.

    (*nods @ michaelwme)

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