stealth, I agree. If I’ve had a problem with anything in Obama’s administration (and of course I have had a few), this is the biggest. Should have just gotten out. Still should.
This has nothing to do with what Obama inherited. McChrystal voted for Obama. McChrystal was appointed last year to lead the Afghanistan operation by Obama.
You Obama worshipers are liking trying to reason with cultists. Nothing is going to make you stop and question anything. McChrystal really didn’t care about losing his job. Isn’t it obvious?
But wait, there’s more! Now add to that the promise of a vast fortune of mineral wealth in the place, and now we have an economic justification for being there!
Sadly, I must agree that we should get out of Afghanistan. Leave it to become, once again, a stronghold for terrorists and extremists. We have occupied this country for over nine years, alienating the population. Where once we had the people with us, we now have them against us.
For a while I tried to suggest that people should moderate their language, and I got called out for it. Somebody wrote a nasty note saying that I should stop being the cop of the forum. So now I try be a good example, and leave it at that.
Stop the INSANE war on drugs. Salt the poppy fields.
Take the money out of it.
Make legal trade the official goal and you might have a chance.
Now that they have found valuble mineral deposits they will have some legitimate trade goods instead of poison.
Bruce, I stopped some time ago when someone pointed out that we were using stupid nicknames for George Bush. I decided, okay, his actions speak loudly enough without being childish. My action was not reciprocated.
There are snipe-wars going on between a few posters here; I think there are more on the right, but that could be my perspective speaking.
That’s my stake in the ground. How about everyone else?
davesmithsit, that’s all fine and dandy if you have a replacement crop or other means of income for the villagers there that will match what they earn now. They are concerned with their families’ survival, above all else. THAT is why they continue to grow the poppies, especially since the insurgents will leave them in peace to do so.
The problem with moving Afghanistan from poppies to mining is that you have a bunch of independent farmers who have at least some chance of making money who would become hourly workers making somebody else rich.
True, you may have more hourly workers employed than before, but it’s hard to see the incentive for a guy who can own his own farm and turn a good profit.
Plus, there really is no reason why they won’t pursue mining and poppies.
cdward almost 14 years ago
stealth, I agree. If I’ve had a problem with anything in Obama’s administration (and of course I have had a few), this is the biggest. Should have just gotten out. Still should.
leipsicbob almost 14 years ago
Obama inherited a S**t Sandwich. And adding a little garlic and oregano (Obama’s strategy) won’t help it.
meetinthemiddle almost 14 years ago
Obama inherited one of the top 5 messes in American history… This was right up there with Buchanan to Lincoln, Nixon to Ford, Hoover to Roosevelt…
earodrig Premium Member almost 14 years ago
meetinthemiddle: You saved me the trouble. Great! The two words that sum up that slide? Uh-oh!
HabaneroBuck almost 14 years ago
This has nothing to do with what Obama inherited. McChrystal voted for Obama. McChrystal was appointed last year to lead the Afghanistan operation by Obama.
You Obama worshipers are liking trying to reason with cultists. Nothing is going to make you stop and question anything. McChrystal really didn’t care about losing his job. Isn’t it obvious?
Wildcard24365 almost 14 years ago
@stealth6948
But wait, there’s more! Now add to that the promise of a vast fortune of mineral wealth in the place, and now we have an economic justification for being there!
Simon_Jester almost 14 years ago
Now you know how Truman felt.
Justice22 almost 14 years ago
Sadly, I must agree that we should get out of Afghanistan. Leave it to become, once again, a stronghold for terrorists and extremists. We have occupied this country for over nine years, alienating the population. Where once we had the people with us, we now have them against us.
PaddyJaye almost 14 years ago
Billdog: Stop the name calling.
Jaedabee Premium Member almost 14 years ago
“McChrystal really didn’t care about losing his job. Isn’t it obvious?”
It’s an easy way out of being in charge of that mess, to be sure.Motivemagus almost 14 years ago
PJ: tell the conservatives that, too, please?
vhammon almost 14 years ago
Thank you Bruce.
lonecat almost 14 years ago
For a while I tried to suggest that people should moderate their language, and I got called out for it. Somebody wrote a nasty note saying that I should stop being the cop of the forum. So now I try be a good example, and leave it at that.
treered almost 14 years ago
FlashForward
davesmithsit almost 14 years ago
Stop the INSANE war on drugs. Salt the poppy fields. Take the money out of it. Make legal trade the official goal and you might have a chance. Now that they have found valuble mineral deposits they will have some legitimate trade goods instead of poison.
Motivemagus almost 14 years ago
Bruce, I stopped some time ago when someone pointed out that we were using stupid nicknames for George Bush. I decided, okay, his actions speak loudly enough without being childish. My action was not reciprocated. There are snipe-wars going on between a few posters here; I think there are more on the right, but that could be my perspective speaking. That’s my stake in the ground. How about everyone else?
SuperGriz almost 14 years ago
Identify the guilty and move on. On the other hand…
SuperGriz almost 14 years ago
Today’s Tole’s funny is here:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/
bloomfan almost 14 years ago
davesmithsit, that’s all fine and dandy if you have a replacement crop or other means of income for the villagers there that will match what they earn now. They are concerned with their families’ survival, above all else. THAT is why they continue to grow the poppies, especially since the insurgents will leave them in peace to do so.
meetinthemiddle almost 14 years ago
The problem with moving Afghanistan from poppies to mining is that you have a bunch of independent farmers who have at least some chance of making money who would become hourly workers making somebody else rich.
True, you may have more hourly workers employed than before, but it’s hard to see the incentive for a guy who can own his own farm and turn a good profit.
Plus, there really is no reason why they won’t pursue mining and poppies.