Tom Toles for September 03, 2009

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    HUMPHRIES  over 13 years ago

    When the GOP dumps the cranks and wingnutz then we can get some things done.

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    cdward  over 13 years ago

    We have their answer, now let’s move on without them and get something done.

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    d_legendary1  over 13 years ago

    Reconciliation! Do it and move on. The cons have done this so can the Dems.

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    Simon_Jester  over 13 years ago

    Humphries, that’s like asking Kermit the Frog to dump Jim Henson

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    HUMPHRIES  over 13 years ago

    Simon, Kleppe, you make a hard argument. Guess that’s why there’s so many of us ex-republicans in exile.

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    Motivemagus  over 13 years ago

    I miss moderate Republicans. Heck, I miss right-wing Republicans who can have discussions!

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    believecommonsense  over 13 years ago

    heck …. I miss informed, civil discussions period!

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    iamthelorax  over 13 years ago

    Sometimes the worst thing that can happen is for you to win so much in elections. Now that Republicans are in control of nothing, they can sit there, do nothing and say “I told you so”.

    We have a political party like that in Canada, they’re called the NDP. Bunch of know-nothing loudmouths who’ve made a career of losing elections, pretending to cry about how they would have done a much better job.

    Expect nothing but that for the next 4 years from Republicans.

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    Kosher71  over 13 years ago

    Nope . Nice .

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    d_legendary1  over 13 years ago

    Yeah BCS its all dems suck, communista (like the cubans here yell out all the time), and B.O. smells jokes from the same three or four cranks all the time.

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    aardvarkseyes  over 13 years ago

    Toles (and the Democrats) has come late to the party. It was obvious months ago that the only thing the Republicans had to offer the American political system was destructive obstructionism. Considering how many serious problems the US faces, that’s a sad comment.

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    nomad2112  over 13 years ago

    … and the answer won’t change until the people on the other side of the isle get a clue.

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    SClark55 Premium Member over 13 years ago

    What I find interesting is that the Dem’s who blame the Republicans are actually covering for their own party members who will not tow their party’s line. I mean, what’s worse: to simply say no, or to say no to your own party? Generally it’s the latter, but not this time - the lib Dem’s won’t dare bad-mouth the centrists of their own party, WHO ARE THE ONES THAT MAY STOP THIS LEGISLATION. Why not? Why complain about the Repub’s if you shouldn’t even need them?

    This is how desperate the left is when they fight a battle. It’s all politcal - even when the problem is their own party, they blame Republicans, and the fools in the lib media (like Toles here) buy into it, apparently without checking facts.

    They’re just extensions of the Democratic party, giving the unsuspecting a distorted picture. Pathetic.

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    Motivemagus  over 13 years ago

    Well, sclark, I’ve blamed Obama for not being tough enough, and the Democrats for not holding the line, so I would like to be considered an exception to your sweeping assertions. Though in fact had you been correct, we might have seen a few Republicans who think this is a good idea. We have not. And we have heard about the GOP organizing opposition. Okay?

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    cdward  over 13 years ago

    oldie, I believe you’ve written that at least three times in different places. Duly noted. I suppose will have to let satipera do his/her penance and then move on.

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    HabaneroBuck  over 13 years ago

    Some Republicans have long offered a solution to the Health Care Issue with protected individual health savings accounts in lieu of paying money to the HMO’s. It’s never gotten traction, and you can thank plenty of Reps and Dems for that.

    Similar to the actually progressive Republican take on education reform involving vouchers and school competition, which will always be opposed by the NEA. There are thousands of innovative ideas in the Republican party, but they rarely develop a head of steam.

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    GNWachs  over 13 years ago

    What do you want a person of conscious to do when he deeply sincerely philosophically opposes a proposed major policy shift. Compromise your ideals? Should the liberals have said to Bush, we don’t agree with you in Iraq but only send in half the number of troops you have asked for.

    As said above the Republicans have offered many alternatives. The Democrats just say no. Health Savings accounts, large deductible policies, tort reform etc. But the Dems walk around with a big NO button.

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    iamthelorax  over 13 years ago

    No, not BQ. I should have mentioned them as being the same level as the NDP.

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    believecommonsense  over 13 years ago

    gary has good point, the GOP had six years in control of the WH and both branches of Congress … they did nothing

    and GNW all the things you mentioned do nothing to reform the well-documented abuses of the health insurance industry and would in fact ensure that people will pay more for less ad infinitum

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    GNWachs  over 13 years ago

    BCS Tort reform? Not ordering totally unnecessary tests will harm the patient?

    HSA Putting the power back into the hands of the patient will harm them?

    Republicans did indeed pass HSA, that is why they are available today.

    And Republican lawyers are just as whorish as Democratic lawyers re tort reform.

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    believecommonsense  over 13 years ago

    GNW: they did NOTHING to help 47 million people without health insurance

    they did NOTHING to reform the well-documented abuses of the health insurance industry ?

    Without reform of the insurance industry’s abusive practices, we’re forcing people to pay more and more for less and less. And we’re forcing more people ONTO medicaid when medical costs drive people into bankruptcy.

    and I didn’t say anything about lawyers of any political persuasion …. you keep sidestepping, answering questions I didn’t ask, not answering those I do ask …

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    GNWachs  over 13 years ago

    On another site 2 weeks ago I posted a list of all the state mandated extra services that insurance companies must pay for. Adds hundreds of dollars to premiums. that answers your question.

    “health insurance industry and would in fact ensure that people will pay more for less ad infinitum ”

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