Carter’s actions re. Afghanistan are equivalent to the others’ lies? The fact that ObL gained his fame funding jihadis well after the Carter administration makes this causal relationship tenuous at best. While it’s true that Carter sent aid (summer, 1979) to fight what was believed to be an Soviet influence there, the actual Soviet invasion in late December, 1979 had a more direct connection to ObL’s appearance there. His motivation was to fight the godless communists, and only after the Soviets were defeated was Al-Qaeda formed.
A unique act by presidential libraries for presidents of both parties recognizing the assaults on democratic principles by the Republican party in numerous states and Congress.
The Afghans had nothing to do with 9/11! None of those terrorists were Afghan, none. Saudi Arabia was the country behind 9/11. The funding was Saudi, the terrorists were Saudi, the planning was Saudi! What did Jimmy Carter helping the Afghans against the Russians have to do with 9/11?
To paraphrase PJ O’Roarke. “They were wrong but wrong within normal operating parameters”. Except for the “Shrub”, he had the reverse Midas touch that one.
Jimmy Carter secretly funded freedom fighters who were trying to kick the Soviets out of their country. It was a move that everyone supported when they found out…. At least until the Taliban took over.
Bill and Monica stack up there with the illegal invasion of Iraq?
Let’s talk about “You can keep your doctor”. Nothing in the bill prevented you from keeping your doctor. This is AMERICA, you can hire any doctor you like. The problem was your insurance company, NOT the government. It was the insurance company who told you that they would not pay for you to see your old doctor. You could see him, yes. But the INSURANCE company wouldn’t cover you.
How was this Obama’s fault? Obama wanted single payer health insurance from the beginning. It was CONGRESS who negotiated and sold us out to the insurance companies.
Ted, if you want to slam Obama on health care, slam him for failing to get single payer. That doctor thing was a Republican talking point, it wasn’t the truth. Heck, slam him for going to Flint and pretending to drink the lead filled water from the tap. Slam him for failing to close Gitmo.
And yet all those compare to today’s… American credibility at all time low, Biden is the first US president with lower tha 60% favorability since wwii no president has been under 80% and thats cause they dont openly criticized him because they want the help to ukraine to keep coming but they also blame him and Obama for it.
Under the ACA you could keep your doctor, and most have. Operation Cyclone, the aid and funding of the Mujahideen by the U.S. in their fight against the Soviet Union, began with $695,000 in mid-1979, increased to $20–$30 million in 1980, and rose to $630 million per year by 1987 under Reagan.
I just like the way Ted Rall’s mind works — always sensitive to hypocrisy, critical of posturing, non-partisan highlighting of foibles and fickleness. He gets a like on this from me.
Wow – Brilliant! Thanks for this one, Ted… You never fail to let us down. American credibility??? That only exists in the minds of the puppets, bootlicks and the brain dead…
Jimmy Carter was President (one term) in the early 70s as I recall. 9/11 was was “caused” in 2011 when USA failed to respond to intelligence available at the time. BTW, You don’t mention Reagan, who led the charge to bankrupt the American working class. Jimmy Carter led the charge to take environment destruction seriously. To many of us he is the best President in living memory, perhaps the most relevant President ever.
1) It was Ronald Reagan that funded the Afghan Jihadis, 2) You could keep you own doctor in the ACA (unless your insurance company screwed it up for you), and 3) Bill Clinton actually did not lie.
Anyone interested in what really happened with Clinton, let me know . . .
knutdl 3 months ago
U. S. credibility? HAHAHAHAHA………
EgidiusPfanzelter 3 months ago
Jimmy Carter funded the Taliban, that‘s correct. I don’t remember whether this was a secret or not.
But how did this lead to 9/11? It is not even clear what role Bin Laden really played in this operation.
Havel 3 months ago
Carter’s actions re. Afghanistan are equivalent to the others’ lies? The fact that ObL gained his fame funding jihadis well after the Carter administration makes this causal relationship tenuous at best. While it’s true that Carter sent aid (summer, 1979) to fight what was believed to be an Soviet influence there, the actual Soviet invasion in late December, 1979 had a more direct connection to ObL’s appearance there. His motivation was to fight the godless communists, and only after the Soviets were defeated was Al-Qaeda formed.
old1953 3 months ago
I thought Carters funding of the Afghan revolutionaries was done via budget passed by Congress.
mourdac Premium Member 3 months ago
A unique act by presidential libraries for presidents of both parties recognizing the assaults on democratic principles by the Republican party in numerous states and Congress.
davidthoms1 3 months ago
The Afghans had nothing to do with 9/11! None of those terrorists were Afghan, none. Saudi Arabia was the country behind 9/11. The funding was Saudi, the terrorists were Saudi, the planning was Saudi! What did Jimmy Carter helping the Afghans against the Russians have to do with 9/11?
Zebrastripes 3 months ago
What a bunch of CRAPpolla!
Raging Moderate 3 months ago
To paraphrase PJ O’Roarke. “They were wrong but wrong within normal operating parameters”. Except for the “Shrub”, he had the reverse Midas touch that one.
Rick Parkhurst Premium Member 3 months ago
Willie Horton is the best you got for GHWB? He stole that from Al Gore.
grange 3 months ago
Jimmy Carter secretly funded freedom fighters who were trying to kick the Soviets out of their country. It was a move that everyone supported when they found out…. At least until the Taliban took over.
Durak Premium Member 3 months ago
Talk about your false equivalencies.
Bill and Monica stack up there with the illegal invasion of Iraq?
Let’s talk about “You can keep your doctor”. Nothing in the bill prevented you from keeping your doctor. This is AMERICA, you can hire any doctor you like. The problem was your insurance company, NOT the government. It was the insurance company who told you that they would not pay for you to see your old doctor. You could see him, yes. But the INSURANCE company wouldn’t cover you.
How was this Obama’s fault? Obama wanted single payer health insurance from the beginning. It was CONGRESS who negotiated and sold us out to the insurance companies.
Ted, if you want to slam Obama on health care, slam him for failing to get single payer. That doctor thing was a Republican talking point, it wasn’t the truth. Heck, slam him for going to Flint and pretending to drink the lead filled water from the tap. Slam him for failing to close Gitmo.
But the “you can keep your doctor” thing is lame.
leonardonyc 3 months ago
And yet all those compare to today’s… American credibility at all time low, Biden is the first US president with lower tha 60% favorability since wwii no president has been under 80% and thats cause they dont openly criticized him because they want the help to ukraine to keep coming but they also blame him and Obama for it.
Radish the wordsmith 3 months ago
Liar Trump embraced covid and wiped out the red wave.
ncorgbl 3 months ago
Under the ACA you could keep your doctor, and most have. Operation Cyclone, the aid and funding of the Mujahideen by the U.S. in their fight against the Soviet Union, began with $695,000 in mid-1979, increased to $20–$30 million in 1980, and rose to $630 million per year by 1987 under Reagan.
cbellmerit 3 months ago
I applaud Ted Rall for pointing out that both parties are at fault. Both parties need to work together to drain the swamp.
newyorkslim 3 months ago
I just like the way Ted Rall’s mind works — always sensitive to hypocrisy, critical of posturing, non-partisan highlighting of foibles and fickleness. He gets a like on this from me.
Flatworm 3 months ago
I DID get to keep my doctor, as did everyone else I know.
John Keith Premium Member 3 months ago
Wow – Brilliant! Thanks for this one, Ted… You never fail to let us down. American credibility??? That only exists in the minds of the puppets, bootlicks and the brain dead…
kathy shellorne 3 months ago
Jimmy Carter was President (one term) in the early 70s as I recall. 9/11 was was “caused” in 2011 when USA failed to respond to intelligence available at the time. BTW, You don’t mention Reagan, who led the charge to bankrupt the American working class. Jimmy Carter led the charge to take environment destruction seriously. To many of us he is the best President in living memory, perhaps the most relevant President ever.
jvscanlan Premium Member 2 months ago
1) It was Ronald Reagan that funded the Afghan Jihadis, 2) You could keep you own doctor in the ACA (unless your insurance company screwed it up for you), and 3) Bill Clinton actually did not lie.
Anyone interested in what really happened with Clinton, let me know . . .
GaryCooper 2 months ago
You forgot Mr. Iran-Contra, who also had a much greater role in creating the Taliban.
Rick Parkhurst Premium Member 2 months ago
It is like the effin twilight zone in here!
BobbyMal 2 months ago
Oops, sorry Melania.
GreggW Premium Member 2 months ago
Said “others” see accurately, and it’s been in disarray for quite some time.
Yontrop about 2 months ago
“Jimmy Carter… led to…” You forgot, “George Washington fighting the American Revolution led to Donald Trump.”