Stuart Carlson for January 14, 2011

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    grapfhics  over 11 years ago

    My mind is made up, do not confuse me with the facts

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    riley05  over 11 years ago

    Fact: A single can of tuna contains more mercury than a vaccine shot.

    Oh, sorry, you said don’t confuse you with facts…

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    Simon_Jester  over 11 years ago

    I’m no fan of big pharma, but even they didn’t deserve a canard like that Autism ‘study’

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    yohannbiimu  over 11 years ago

    Facts of the matter regarding the Tuscon tragedy have proved beyond a doubt that “right-wing hate speech” (whatever the hell that is) had nothing whatsoever to do with it–and yet Mr. Carlson gleefully joined-in the mindless speculation and libel. When will THE TRUTH end THAT matter Mr. Carlson? Hmmmm…?

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Not a fan of big pharma either, but what those anti-vaccine people are doing is CRUEL. They harness the pain of parents who have seen ther promising child turn into a bleeep for no reason with no possibility of cure just so the can get some visibility.

    One thing I might buy into is the idea that we live an autistic society. We live in a World dominated by nerds (and I’m a nerd, so I don’t mean to insult anyone, here) and autistic is a “nerd gone bad”.

    In the past, people with little social interraction skills couldn’t find a mate and breed. Now, through internet dating, someone with little social skills can start a family with someone with just as little social skills. On top of that, people with no social skills but with tech smarts galore have well-paid jobs in the computer industry, which is a good incitation to start a family and pass their genes to the next generation.

    It’s natural selection at work, when you think about it; we live in a world where, with the help of computers, social skills are optional. Just like when humans started to loose their fur when they found out they could put on animal skins to keep them warm and survive the next winter to pass their hairless genes to the next generation, human are now loosing their social skills now that they have found out they can use the internet to attract a mate and pass on their nerdy, autistic genes to the next generation.

    This article here can be disrespectful (mostly the pictures) at times, but it makes a few good points; http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/epidemics/autism/

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    Motivemagus  over 11 years ago

    fennec, you’re quite right. This man is a sleazebag, and deserves jail time for the magnitude of this fraud. Jenny McCarthy needs to get a new life. A clear illustration of the value of a fact-based approach to life…

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    Motivemagus  over 11 years ago

    Oh, and lest we forget, they HAVE removed the mercury compounds from vaccines. They were there, incidentally, to preserve the quality of the vaccine over longer time periods. So even if the anti-vaccine idiots were right, they’re STILL wrong - they need to vaccinate their kids!

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    Mythreesons  over 11 years ago

    With the removal of mercury from the vaccines in the past few years, the proof will be whether the incidence of autism decreases in the next 20 years or so.

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    Simon_Jester  over 11 years ago

    No Yohann, none of that’s been ‘proven beyond doubt’…and why bring that into this discussion anyway?

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    vhammon  over 11 years ago

    In Endangered Mind (1991), author and researcher Jane Healy noted that in traveling the country training teachers, she was hearing consistently from preschool teachers who had been teaching for more than 20 years, that the children were changing.

    They were saying that 20 years earlier (putting us in the 60s-70s) you could ask a room full of preschool children to sit in a circle and nearly all would comply (with the exception of the perennial few who are difficult about complying). The teachers were reporting that now (in the 80s-90), a higher and higher number of children could simply not process the request; their minds weren’t functioning properly.

    Today, it is reported that 1 in 4 of our children have some developmental delay or difficulty.

    I’d say that deserves hysterical headlines. What’s the cause? How can we improve?

    There’s good reason for parents to be paranoid. Just 20 years ago there were a dozen vaccines. Today, they’re recommending giving newborns a round of vaccines, and then slamming them with over 35 shots in their first year. How can that be either good or necessary for a kid in a basically healthy middle class home?

    There’s good cause for some healthy cynicism about Big Pharma’s take on our best interests.

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    lalas  over 11 years ago

    There was a piece on TOTN Science Friday where a caller acted exactly as the woman above. Sadly, people in general have issues with innumeracy and a huge lack of understanding how science works.

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    riley05  over 11 years ago

    Vhammon asks, “How can that be either good or necessary for a kid in a basically healthy middle class home?”

    Answer: It prevents bad diseases.

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    Bluejayz  over 11 years ago

    To paraphrase, “No one is so ignorant as she who will not learn.”

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    Motivemagus  over 11 years ago

    fennec’s right. One of the other clues is the massive increase in autoimmune disease, specifically allergies. The environment is simply becoming increasingly hostile to human life.

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    riley05  over 11 years ago

    Wish the pro-pollution types could figure that out.

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    riley05  over 11 years ago

    I think the pro-pollution people are too powerful, Fennec. As long as you confine your thinking to the short term, it’s always cheaper and easier to pollute.

    And one thing I learned in college when I had a messy roommate…one tidy and one messy = messy. In other words, as long as there are a significant number of pro-pollution people, we’ll have significant pollution.

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Anyone heard about the hygiene hypothesis? Check that on wikipedia. Ver interesting…

    My brother’s friend works in a daycare in a poor neighborhood of Montreal (Saint-Henri). Half her group is allergic to something!

    According to the hygiene hypothesis, an allergic reaction is what the body’s deences do when they need some target practice; they pick a substance they don’t like and attack the body at the slightest trace of it.

    You gotta admit there are less allergies and other autoimmune diseases in poorer nations. Maybe it is because children born with it don’t live long…or maybe, and this goes against everything we ever thought we knew about health, some parasites and bacteria PREVENT autoimmune diseases.

    Our bodies were designed, evolved with parasites to fight. What do they do when they don’t have any?

    There is already a new treatment against crohn’s disease that involves swallowing worm eggs!

    Seems like a catch 22…too much exposure to pathogens and we get sick, not enough exposure and we get sick.

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