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Stuart Carlson for October 09, 2009

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    believecommonsense  almost 10 years ago

    and the oh so predictable rabid right rants have already started, along with some oh so predictable rabid right toons.

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    Imajs  almost 10 years ago

    “And the award goes to someone with honorable intentions that in fact has accomplished NOTHING!….”

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    kennethcwarren64  almost 10 years ago

    It must be nice to be a Republican, you never have to try to fix anything, develope any plan, put forward any proposal, work to make the country better, all you have to do is attack.

    The sad thing is that the Democrats let them get away with it!

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    cjr53  almost 10 years ago

    He is the President. The first one that isn’t a white man.

    I’m not the president, you’re not the president.

    I guess that accomplishment means nothing either?

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    nomad2112  almost 10 years ago

    ^ The presidency was handed to him by the liberal media. Please stop interjecting race into the discussion.

    In regards to the ‘toon - he won’t have to live it down and it’s unlikely that he will live up to it. No, wait - they gave one to AL Gore one for nothing so I guess living up to won’t be that big of a problem.

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    Ronshua  almost 10 years ago

    Now the troop buildup can go as planned , he received his Peace prize . Good call harley .

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    Motivemagus  almost 10 years ago

    Actually, he’s done quite a bit. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

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    Motivemagus  almost 10 years ago

    And nomad, keep living in your dreamworld. No one “handed” Obama the presidency, least of all the non-liberal media. (FoxNews? CNN’s increasingly right-wing stance? The NYT, which supported the war with Iraq and helped peddle false evidence? This is left wing?) If you remember, Hillary was considered the “inevitable” choice.

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    riley05  almost 10 years ago

    The extreme righties keep falling over themselves in their vain efforts to demonstrate how much they hate America.

    Our President gets the Nobel Peace Prize, and all they can do is tell the world that he didn’t deserve it.

    Why do you hate America so much, Righties?

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    moosegirl  almost 10 years ago

    Strange!? I thought the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to people who actually did something to promote or preserve peace. Theodore Roosevelt brought Japan and Russia together to end a war in 1905. Herbert Hoover was a great humanitarian who did what he could to relieve the Communist generated famine in the Ukraine back in the ’20s. Didn’t Mother Teresa get one also for her work with the poor of the world? Others also have actually done some work to promote peace. WHAT THE HELL HAS OBAMA OR GORE DONE TO EVEN REMOTELY COMPARE TO THESE AND OTHER PREVIOUS WINNERS OF THIS PRIZE???!!!! Alfred Nobel must be turning over in his grave. By the way, if you so-called “Progressives” bother to tune in to PBS or read the liberal press, you just might find that there’s an equal amount of criticism on the Democrap side as well. Check the English paper The Telegraph. They’re wondering WTF also?

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    cdward  almost 10 years ago

    moosegirl, you will note that the Nobel committee gave its reasons. Perhaps you will want to read their reasons and argue with them.

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    RussellNash  almost 10 years ago

    He changed the stance of the most influential country in the world from war first to negotiation first. That is not nothing.

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    believecommonsense  almost 10 years ago

    nomad: The presidency was handed to him by the liberal media. Please stop interjecting race into the discussion.

    Oh c’mon, I think it was the 52.9 percent of voters that “handed” him the election, in the largest percentage of voter turnout since 1960.

    yes, please ask the rabid right fringe to stop interjecting their racism into our nation’s ongoing discourse.

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    CorosiveFrog Premium Member almost 10 years ago

    On the other hand, that prize may give him authority on the international level.

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    kat827618  almost 10 years ago

    Those on the left are impatient, and those on the right are immoral. I’m impatient, but I’m not going to begrudge Obama his Nobel Prize.

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    deadheadzan Premium Member almost 10 years ago

    He did receive the prize for bringing diplomacy back to the international table before military action is undertaken by the (arguably) only world super power.

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    roccekt  almost 10 years ago

    Moosegirl is so wrong. Please research other winners and why they won. Very few actually accomplished what they attempted, it was enough to try. Desmond Tutu won the prize without actually ending apartheid. Obama has a robust agenda with most of it restoring our respect in the world.

    Sound like he’s done a lot of that already.

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    nomad2112  almost 10 years ago

    motivemagus, I remember that Hillary had the nomination yanked out from under her.

    BCS thanks for pointing out that Obama won by less than 3% (no land slide there). If it had been a fair fight without the media “in the tank” my guess is that Hillary would have gained the nomination.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6CSix3Dy04
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    believecommonsense  almost 10 years ago

    ^ oh nomad, you misspeak once again.

    Obama: 52.9 percent McCain: 45.7 percent

    Obama’s margin of victory was larger than both Bush 43’s, larger than both Clinton’s, larger than Reagan’s 1st term margin, and larger than Carter’s. That takes us back more than 30 years.

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    nomad2112  almost 10 years ago

    … still no landslide. Isn’t it great what free press will get you?

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    pivero  almost 10 years ago

    I’m not a righty, if someone asks I tend to lean to the left… Now, how can someone like Obama get the Nobel Peace Prize is beyond my understanding.

    Nothing political here, just facts. Isn’t he responsible for the continuous illegal occupation of two countries? Aren’t American Armed Forces, of which he is Commander in Chief, still killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Isn’t he planning of setting up military bases in Colombia?

    Now, you tell me, what is that doing for World’s Peace?

    But then again, didn’t Henry Kissinger, Yassir Arafat and whoever was then Prime Minister of Israel get the same Prize?

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    Motivemagus  almost 10 years ago

    Still missing it, Nomad - the gap is 7.2%, which in a Presidential election is huge. Since Bush claimed a razor-thin and sleazy non-victory was a mandate, why shouldn’t a legitimate and clear-cut victory be one?

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    believecommonsense  almost 10 years ago

    nomad, your dogged obstinacy does not serve your argument well.

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    Redeemd  almost 10 years ago

    Aren’t the Europeans a little embarrassed at the obvious pandering this award represents? I mean, come on, if they had at least waited till next year, they could maybe base it on something tangible.

    This is kinda like the collective shiver up the European’s legs!

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    4uk4ata  almost 10 years ago

    The committee that awarded the prize was really making a mountain out of a molehill as far as Obama’s current accomplishments are concerned. I think he handled the matter fairly well though, especially as he noted he was not “worthy’ of the prize at present.

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    cdward  almost 10 years ago

    pivero wrote: “Nothing political here, just facts. Isn’t he responsible for the continuous illegal occupation of two countries? Aren’t American Armed Forces, of which he is Commander in Chief, still killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Isn’t he planning of setting up military bases in Colombia?”

    I also grieve that we still have troops in either of these countries, though to call it an illegal occupation is perhaps not to the point. I suspect getting troops out is not as easy as it sounds – once we created this huge mess, simply pulling out might cause even more harm. I hope and pray he gets us out as soon as possible, but I believe making things happen in Washington is a bit like a dance with the devil. It’s slow, ponderous, and you need to watch every step very carefully. I’d love to close down Guantanimo, too, but he’s got a political hot potato with that one (Bush found that out, too, but couldn’t figure out what to do with it. Not sure anyone will let him find a solution).

    As to Colombia, that seems a little more nuanced. From what I’ve read, it’s the “updating” of a many-years-long agreement that would include the few US troops there (fewer than 800) having certain use rights on Colobian bases.

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    believecommonsense  almost 10 years ago

    boo, Howie, just acknowledge he won with a healthy margin in a year of record turnout.

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    deadheadzan Premium Member almost 10 years ago

    Voter irregularities sometimes constitutes a disaster when certain candidates get elected. 7% is major and the voter turnout was major and the fact that a bi-racial man won is nothing short of a miracle.

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    believecommonsense  almost 10 years ago

    Howie, to the best of my knowledge the SCOTUS has not stopped investigations into any voting irregularities as they did in 2000. So what exactly is your point? Can’t you just acknowledge Obama garnered the enthusiastic support of millions of people (about 70 million I think) as well as the enmity of a lesser number of millions of others? Are you suggesting that somehow he didn’t really win? C’mon, that’s beneath you.

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    pivero  almost 10 years ago

    @cdward,

    I know it’s not easy to pull out troops and all their hardware from those two countries, I don’t think anyone with a bit of sense was expecting that to happen from one day to the next, but the fact is that Obama hasn’t shown a lot of will to do that, either, and in fact, he’s know sent 13000 more troops to Afghanistan.

    As for the occupation, it is illegal, give me a break! The invasion of Iraq was illegal, to begin with, and Afghanistan’s was sold as a “seek and destroy” sort of thing that turned out into nation building. The fact is that, other than the thugs from the Northern Alliance, nobody in that country wanted to be liberated, more so if that meant that they’d be blown to pieces.

    As for Colombia. The “update” of the agreement is a gimmick the president is using in order to avoid a parliamentary vote he is almost sure to loose, but which was very little grip with reality.

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