Robert Ariail for August 06, 2015

  1. Birthcontrol
    Dtroutma  almost 7 years ago

    Not eve close, despite what the Koch PR team says.

     •  Reply
  2. Missing large
    ConserveGov  almost 7 years ago

    Get ready for even more non-working people since Jimbo Carter and even higher taxes and smaller pay checks!Good times! Thanks Democrats!

     •  Reply
  3. 200
    Michael Peterson Premium Member almost 7 years ago

    A second cartoonist who doesn’t understand the use of canaries in coal mines — that bird died 30 years ago and nobody paid any attention. What killed the coal industry was that people wanted to breathe unpolluted air so they switched to clearn energy sources. (The “Free Market” all those rightwingers claim they want.) And considering the mine owners continue to kill their employees and cover up the safety violations, they’re still living in the 19th century along with Airial and the other stooges.

     •  Reply
  4. Wtp
    superposition  almost 7 years ago

    Ironically, coal may be a good source for quantum dots which can can be used to make low cost (compared to silicon) PV cells. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24309588http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acsami.5b01419

     •  Reply
  5. B8b14dce2f3161ff864f5dfd89ee5a51
    avarner  almost 7 years ago

    More destruction, as promised.

    No surprises here.

     •  Reply
  6. 1faentz
    OldCoal  almost 7 years ago

    It’s odd how some think the 21st century should be powered by 18th century energy sources. Why is this? And that’s both a right and left issue, the right has a very inexplicable love of coal, probably because they see it as an issue dividing unions and Democrats not for any practical reason, the left has this unreasonable hate for nuclear power, probably because they associate the word nuclear with atomic bombs. Neither of those are good reasons to power the world on resources that have very markedly run down in quality and have much more important uses in the chemicals industry.

     •  Reply
  7. 1faentz
    OldCoal  almost 7 years ago

    Now, continuing in a different vein, QUALITY of coal and oil resources is something the right doesn’t want discussed at all. FACT HERE: all coal and oil are not equal. Anthracite is the very best coal, essentially a lump of nearly pure carbon, and there’s hardly any of that left, and what there is, is owned and reserved for the steel industry for smelting steel. From there you move to bituminous coals, and there’s not a lot of those left in the United States. The coal mined east of the Mississippi is mostly sub bituminous coal now. In the western states, it’s lignite. Lignite is the dirtiest coal and the least productive of power, because what you mine is wet. Lignite at Black Mesa runs about 20% water by weight. (Don’t gimme any crap on that, that’s straight from the techs who run the QC checks.) It’s often called ‘brown’ coal, because it’s not actually black. You’ve got more problems burning lignite because you simply have to burn more of it to get the same quantity of heat, and you have to dry it out to burn it, which also takes away from heat production.Oil is a bit different. It’s not so much the heat produced from a barrel, as the viscosity. Saudi Arabia just finished bringing their last oil fields online in 2014, one was contaminated with heavy metals in the oil so badly they had to build a special refinery, another was just about like trying to pump jello, the viscosity was so bad. Quality is dropping rapidly in the conventional oil fields.As for shale fracture, it’s already showing signs of age. Totally ignoring any issue of pollution, the declines in gas production have more rapid than expected, and this should be figuring into EIA number by the end of this year. Same goes for the shale oil production. Most of the potential production is left in broken rock that now can’t be mined (unless you are suicidal, you do not dig in fractured rock – ever). So logically, we have to go nuclear. Yes, solar is great, wonderful and fantastic and the sun doesn’t shine at night. The wind doesn’t blow all the time. The tide isn’t coming in and out constantly. Many locations suitable for renewable are remote and line losses will be terrific. If you can’t stand the thought of fission power, you better be promoting about five billions a year for fusion research – the oft touted “Manhattan Project for Fusion”. Nobody seems to get it that the Manhattan Project did not try “a road to nuclear”, they tried ALL THE POSSIBLE APPROACHES until they found one that worked. So if you want fusion power that’s the way to go, in fact, the boron fusion would be the one to study, as 1% of the boron mined each year would be enough for total worldwide energy production without vast purification or separation processes. So promote fission or fusion, but you have to have one or the other. The “more storage” thing is a damned dream, without some crazy breakthrough that allows storing 100X as much power as current as cheaply as the current storage by weight (IOW a 10,000 percent improvement with no increase in weight or cost) storage is just not going to be possible. What powers a house will NOT power a steel mill or a bulldozer.So make up your minds.

     •  Reply
  8. 1faentz
    OldCoal  almost 7 years ago

    It’s funny, but I’ve been to every place mentioned in that song. It’s where I was born.

     •  Reply
  9. Androidify 1453615949677
    Jason Allen  almost 7 years ago

    For a bunch of people who call climate scientists alarmists who squawk like Chicken Little, “conservatives” seem squawk frantically yelling that the sky is falling every time Obama so much as blinks. Which reminds me….. When is Obama going to take everyone’s guns away as predicted when he got elected? He’s running out of time.

     •  Reply
  10. Missing large
    ARodney  almost 7 years ago

    Yes, it’ll be bad for the people who make child-sized coffins too. Coal mining is on its way out, and it’s not because of Obama. It’s because other, less-polluting sources of energy have become so much cheaper, and coal mining has become highly automated and produces very few jobs.

     •  Reply
  11. 1faentz
    OldCoal  almost 7 years ago

    You’ll probably have to switch that to satellite view, since it doesn’t seem to have come across that way. So it goes. But nuclear all together in the USA would pay for less than one of those white piles, and there are thousands of coal washing plants and mines.

     •  Reply
  12. Birthcontrol
    Dtroutma  almost 7 years ago

    BTW: while parts of the rules re-emphasize what’s already in law, and regulations, they don’t actually kick in until 2022, intending to reduce pollution from these sources roughly 17%, but 2030! Another case of still too little, too late. (Check out Scientific American articles, instead of Faux Noise.)

     •  Reply
  13. Missing large
    DrDon1  almost 7 years ago

    Doesn’t appear that Ariail gave this cartoon much thought before he drew it. Too little consideration of the fossil fuel industry changes in the last 25 years.

     •  Reply
  14. Missing large
    edward thomas Premium Member almost 7 years ago

    If it’s still available o line, check out the Columbus Dispatch series from several year ago detailing how AEP bought out the town of Chesapeake due to pollution from its nearby coal-fired power plant.

     •  Reply
Sign in to comment

More From Robert Ariail