We can’t have too many smart and well educated people around, now can we? If we want the US tech industry to remain globally competitive, recruiting highly skilled people from other countries is not a bad idea. Many of the most influential and successful drivers of the domestic tech scene are Indian, for example. We should be offering green cards to any non citzens who earns a graduate degree in the hard sciences, math, or engineering. Maybe citizenship for a PhD. These folks contribute mightily to our economy, and to our society. Of course, I am generally in favor of free education for all Americans, and applaud most types of success. This is not a zero sum game, people. We are still free enough (though sometimes barely) to climb in accordance with our aspirations. I love it when foreigners can more fully participate in that process and become contributing members of our society, especially when they seek to assimilate with us.
First of all, this was not the topic of the cartoon. Secondly, where do you get your false information? Romney took companies that would have closed and left many unemployed and turned them around so that people remained employed. He deserves to EARN what he can. It is unfortunate that so many, like you, want something for nothing.
I’ve had to compete with H1-B folks for high tech positions … often I was the only non-H1-B candidate as many Americans choose not to keep their technical knowledge up-to-date and want a free ride on a 10-15-20 year old degree. I’ve also had to train my lower-salary immigrant replacement and had my revenge when hired back as a consultant to undo the damage done by a neophyte. Germany and China are neck and neck as world’s largest exporter and Germany sees the values of an educated work force.http://www.marketplace.org/topics/education/learning-curve/american-students-head-germany-free-college
The purpose of H1B was to allow hiring of people with skill sets not available in the American labor market. Corporations promptly used it to get rid of American workers, and hire cheaper foreign labor. They’re still doing it.
An easy way for foreign governments to insert their loyal agents into our corporations and government. Most have education based on the military system of specialists. Military specialists learn only the exact information they need to get the exact job at an exact company. Of course they have inside information provided them by higher ups, ultimately leading to their government intelligence, agencies. Americans have to pass a slew of core requirements and general studies in high school and college, then look for jobs on the free market with public information. No wonder America has been so easily hacked by foreign spy agencies.
Um. There are up to 85,000 annual H1-B workers invited to the US, while there are currently 8.7 million (non-military) US citizens living and working abroad (to use the terminology of some – stealing foreigners’ jobs). The really hi-tech industries (not the PC tech support folks) are absolutely dependent on recruiting the best minds – a race that the US currently often wins by offering higher pay than emerging economies can compete with. I’d guess that many high tech firms in the emerging economies would be seriously delighted to think that the H1-B program cut be cut back and they could retain more of their high achievers. Meanwhile it seems that poorly trained and useless Chinese and ‘Eastern European’ computer scientists are wandering seemingly unhindered through .gov’s servers – so clearly no need for further talent. Sheeshk!
@RedmanSorry you feel that way about American IT workers. Of course, the H1B program is helping what you claim to be a reality. Why would anyone waste their time and money on an expensive and demanding IT education when they know that they can be replaced any day by a cheaper counterpart from India or China?My own experience with H1B workers has been mixed. There was the guy that tried to sharpen a mechanical pencil in a pencil sharpener and could not figure out why his computer would not turn on when he plugged the power cable for it into the back of his monitor. Then there was the goto guy on our team who always seemed to know how to solve any problem you gave him. In other words, the H1B workers I ran into were neither better nor worse than their American counterparts.But, I’ll tell you one thing. I am getting sick and tired of hearing about how we cannot do this or that better than our foreign counterparts. We did and we can, and it’s folks like you with you “we can’t do anything right” attitude that are making this country lose its mojo.
Odon Premium Member almost 9 years ago
And coincidentally unions have been hammered at the same time.
twclix almost 9 years ago
We can’t have too many smart and well educated people around, now can we? If we want the US tech industry to remain globally competitive, recruiting highly skilled people from other countries is not a bad idea. Many of the most influential and successful drivers of the domestic tech scene are Indian, for example. We should be offering green cards to any non citzens who earns a graduate degree in the hard sciences, math, or engineering. Maybe citizenship for a PhD. These folks contribute mightily to our economy, and to our society. Of course, I am generally in favor of free education for all Americans, and applaud most types of success. This is not a zero sum game, people. We are still free enough (though sometimes barely) to climb in accordance with our aspirations. I love it when foreigners can more fully participate in that process and become contributing members of our society, especially when they seek to assimilate with us.
Mneedle almost 9 years ago
First of all, this was not the topic of the cartoon. Secondly, where do you get your false information? Romney took companies that would have closed and left many unemployed and turned them around so that people remained employed. He deserves to EARN what he can. It is unfortunate that so many, like you, want something for nothing.
superposition almost 9 years ago
I’ve had to compete with H1-B folks for high tech positions … often I was the only non-H1-B candidate as many Americans choose not to keep their technical knowledge up-to-date and want a free ride on a 10-15-20 year old degree. I’ve also had to train my lower-salary immigrant replacement and had my revenge when hired back as a consultant to undo the damage done by a neophyte. Germany and China are neck and neck as world’s largest exporter and Germany sees the values of an educated work force.http://www.marketplace.org/topics/education/learning-curve/american-students-head-germany-free-college
Dtroutma almost 9 years ago
The purpose of H1B was to allow hiring of people with skill sets not available in the American labor market. Corporations promptly used it to get rid of American workers, and hire cheaper foreign labor. They’re still doing it.
kernelcorny Premium Member almost 9 years ago
An easy way for foreign governments to insert their loyal agents into our corporations and government. Most have education based on the military system of specialists. Military specialists learn only the exact information they need to get the exact job at an exact company. Of course they have inside information provided them by higher ups, ultimately leading to their government intelligence, agencies. Americans have to pass a slew of core requirements and general studies in high school and college, then look for jobs on the free market with public information. No wonder America has been so easily hacked by foreign spy agencies.
MacATDBB almost 9 years ago
Um. There are up to 85,000 annual H1-B workers invited to the US, while there are currently 8.7 million (non-military) US citizens living and working abroad (to use the terminology of some – stealing foreigners’ jobs). The really hi-tech industries (not the PC tech support folks) are absolutely dependent on recruiting the best minds – a race that the US currently often wins by offering higher pay than emerging economies can compete with. I’d guess that many high tech firms in the emerging economies would be seriously delighted to think that the H1-B program cut be cut back and they could retain more of their high achievers. Meanwhile it seems that poorly trained and useless Chinese and ‘Eastern European’ computer scientists are wandering seemingly unhindered through .gov’s servers – so clearly no need for further talent. Sheeshk!
WGW101 almost 9 years ago
@RedmanSorry you feel that way about American IT workers. Of course, the H1B program is helping what you claim to be a reality. Why would anyone waste their time and money on an expensive and demanding IT education when they know that they can be replaced any day by a cheaper counterpart from India or China?My own experience with H1B workers has been mixed. There was the guy that tried to sharpen a mechanical pencil in a pencil sharpener and could not figure out why his computer would not turn on when he plugged the power cable for it into the back of his monitor. Then there was the goto guy on our team who always seemed to know how to solve any problem you gave him. In other words, the H1B workers I ran into were neither better nor worse than their American counterparts.But, I’ll tell you one thing. I am getting sick and tired of hearing about how we cannot do this or that better than our foreign counterparts. We did and we can, and it’s folks like you with you “we can’t do anything right” attitude that are making this country lose its mojo.