It’s more about rights than wages. And it’s the corporate world that wants them shot down, so that even fewer than 8% of workers will be covered, or protected.
Because of the Supreme’s idiocy, the Right was allowed to pour in uncontrolled amounts of money from all over the country into one small mid-western state. More money was spent here than was spent on the Bush-Gore election with the vast majority on the efforts for Walker by out of state super-pacs. I don’t think that was a “voice of the people” anymore than Trump’s hair is indicative of natural hair styling.
“Fancy that, the people of Wisconsin prefer government unions not be allowed to buy politicians who return the favor with more perks paid for by taxpayers.”Walker’s campaign spent $31 million with much of it coming from groups outside Wisconsin. By contrast, his opponent spent $4 million. Which one was more likely purchased?
All of your arguments against Wisconsin are WAY off course, simply because “huge corporations” have nothing to do with the public sector unions. When they collectively “bargain,” they are not demanding wage raises and other gratuities with corporations, but rather with the TAXPAYERS. The folks paying their wages are schlubs who have to work for a living, whether they’re employed or not. Their EMPLOYERS may be suffering from economic downturn, but these unions can demand that they suffer NONE of it. Moreover, when they demand more money, the dues are used to enrich only ONE PARTY. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was right about public sector unions: allowing them to collectively bargain is “impossible.”
One example: Drug testing without probable cause. This invasion of civil rights, once granted by the Constitution, was an abuse of power we stopped, until a “new and improved RIGHT WING SCOTUS” changed the rules, and the Constitution, again.
It is the RIGHT, not the left, that has attacked individual rights of real substance in the last 30 years. If you REALLY want to get frightened of something, check out some of the proposed laws coming out of Mr. Boehner’s House Committees controlled by Republicans, then think about filibuster abuse by Republicans in the Senate.
“WE the PEOPLE”, have never faced so great an accumulated threat to our freedoms, and the “conservatives” pushing that threat, are in NO WAY “conservative”.(nor “liberal”) Look again at the “Patriot Act” and “Military Commissions Act”, pushed through with overbearing propaganda from the “right”.
The funeral dirge for “rights” is being played WAY beyond Wisconsin.
This is so true. There are a lot of us that are feeling that soon no people will have any input in what the make or how the working conditions are.It’s a known fact that states with strong unions have hirer wages overall than states that don’t. In other words, unions keep wages higher for almost everyone in those states. WHy can’t the cons see this??
“I question your estimates of how much was spent by the democrats and their union thugs. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel estimated the democrats spent some 19 million dollars. I find it interesting that you believe that the people of wisconsin can have their votes bought so easily. "The article I read estimated the Democrats spent $4 million. You are not the first to correct the estimate I read, but I have yet to see a correction for the $31 million Governor walker spent. $31 million is still vastly greater than $19 million. I only posted figured I read.You can believe what you want, especially since it already agrees with your preconceived notions.
Prop 13, passed 2 years before Reagan moved on to the White House btw, is the key to figuring out what “bankrupted” California. Other states have followed suit, and nationally, “Reaganomics” building on the same theme as Prop 13, is what morally, if not mortally, wounded the economy.
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
It’s more about rights than wages. And it’s the corporate world that wants them shot down, so that even fewer than 8% of workers will be covered, or protected.
zoidknight almost 12 years ago
No the people prefer the opposite so they voted against you and your way of thinking.
ennui_rudy almost 12 years ago
Because of the Supreme’s idiocy, the Right was allowed to pour in uncontrolled amounts of money from all over the country into one small mid-western state. More money was spent here than was spent on the Bush-Gore election with the vast majority on the efforts for Walker by out of state super-pacs. I don’t think that was a “voice of the people” anymore than Trump’s hair is indicative of natural hair styling.
Jason Allen almost 12 years ago
“Fancy that, the people of Wisconsin prefer government unions not be allowed to buy politicians who return the favor with more perks paid for by taxpayers.”Walker’s campaign spent $31 million with much of it coming from groups outside Wisconsin. By contrast, his opponent spent $4 million. Which one was more likely purchased?
Spyderred almost 12 years ago
So Wisconsin prefers a government owned by a super-wealthy duo?
pirate227 almost 12 years ago
If you want to live in a banana republic, vote Republican.
yohannbiimu almost 12 years ago
All of your arguments against Wisconsin are WAY off course, simply because “huge corporations” have nothing to do with the public sector unions. When they collectively “bargain,” they are not demanding wage raises and other gratuities with corporations, but rather with the TAXPAYERS. The folks paying their wages are schlubs who have to work for a living, whether they’re employed or not. Their EMPLOYERS may be suffering from economic downturn, but these unions can demand that they suffer NONE of it. Moreover, when they demand more money, the dues are used to enrich only ONE PARTY. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was right about public sector unions: allowing them to collectively bargain is “impossible.”
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
One example: Drug testing without probable cause. This invasion of civil rights, once granted by the Constitution, was an abuse of power we stopped, until a “new and improved RIGHT WING SCOTUS” changed the rules, and the Constitution, again.
It is the RIGHT, not the left, that has attacked individual rights of real substance in the last 30 years. If you REALLY want to get frightened of something, check out some of the proposed laws coming out of Mr. Boehner’s House Committees controlled by Republicans, then think about filibuster abuse by Republicans in the Senate.
“WE the PEOPLE”, have never faced so great an accumulated threat to our freedoms, and the “conservatives” pushing that threat, are in NO WAY “conservative”.(nor “liberal”) Look again at the “Patriot Act” and “Military Commissions Act”, pushed through with overbearing propaganda from the “right”.
The funeral dirge for “rights” is being played WAY beyond Wisconsin.
pam Miner almost 12 years ago
This is so true. There are a lot of us that are feeling that soon no people will have any input in what the make or how the working conditions are.It’s a known fact that states with strong unions have hirer wages overall than states that don’t. In other words, unions keep wages higher for almost everyone in those states. WHy can’t the cons see this??
mahoneygardens Premium Member almost 12 years ago
So, what would happen if no out-of-state money were allowed to fund referendums?
Nebulous Premium Member almost 12 years ago
That cartoon is totally unrealistic.
When would a GOP member do physical labor?
joe vignone almost 12 years ago
Is that grave digger a union member? If not he should be digging a grave for his health care, vacation, school system and his raise.
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
^no.
Jason Allen almost 12 years ago
“I question your estimates of how much was spent by the democrats and their union thugs. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel estimated the democrats spent some 19 million dollars. I find it interesting that you believe that the people of wisconsin can have their votes bought so easily. "The article I read estimated the Democrats spent $4 million. You are not the first to correct the estimate I read, but I have yet to see a correction for the $31 million Governor walker spent. $31 million is still vastly greater than $19 million. I only posted figured I read.You can believe what you want, especially since it already agrees with your preconceived notions.
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
“tax cuts” NOT “unions”, led to every state that is facing bankruptcy, period!!
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
Prop 13, passed 2 years before Reagan moved on to the White House btw, is the key to figuring out what “bankrupted” California. Other states have followed suit, and nationally, “Reaganomics” building on the same theme as Prop 13, is what morally, if not mortally, wounded the economy.