Sucks the life out of everything it touches.
Every day is Blurmsday.
Thank you. It sounds like these guys were real pieces of work. But, does this prove that a libertarian government can’t work? I don’t think so. These guys still had to abide by the laws of Chile. While Chile has low taxes, I don’t know how much of a “libertarian paradise” it is. Either way, the underlying premise of libertarianism is that you can enjoy greater personal freedom which will lead to a freer, more prosperous society but you must exercise your freedom in a way that does not harm others. Some people are under the mistaken impression that a libertarian government would have no laws but that is not the case. Rule of law is vital to freedom but those laws must be limited to those that prevent fraud, violence and other clear violations of other peoples rights. Importantly, these laws must constrain the activities of the government as well.
Once again, while you cannot think of a successful one, if “it has been tried many times and always failed” – as I have seen so often on this site – were true, you could think of at least one time that it was tried and failed. What I’m seeing here is that the reason that we have never had a successful libertarian government is the same as why we have never had a successful mission to Mars.
The problem in Kansas was a problem that both libertarians and socialists suffer. The governor pushed through a package of tax cuts (distinct from tax reform and that matters) by over-promising the benefits while failing to do the most important thing needed to make such a program successful: control spending. Tax cuts will, in the short run, always lower revenues. It is after a period of time, maybe a few months maybe a few years depending on other factors, that increased overall growth raises revenues beyond where they would have otherwise been. Where Sam Brownback failed in this endeavour was in expectations. When the short term drops weren’t offset by lower spending, the moderate Republicans panicked.
As to the 2018 elections, it seems that a faction of the Kansas Republican party decided that it was Kobach or bust. If you look at the numbers for the other statewide offices, the Democrat candidate got about the same number of votes as Laura Kelly but Kobach got far fewer votes than the other Republicans. Laura Kelly hasn’t been a complete disaster (in California she would be considered a radical Libertarian) and she has backed off from her original restrictionist positions regarding the lockdown but her first instinct was overly authoritarian.
My point exactly. You say that we have never had a successful libertarian government in human history (@jbmlaw has an example) but you also cannot think of an unsuccessful libertarian government. Maybe if we actually tried it, it might work.
Do you have an example of any government ever run on libertarian principles?
I would add that in addition to the relative time frames, the largest difference is perceived intent and the actions necessary to fulfill that intent. While the nominal intent of both is well understood to be the preservation of life, the relative actions taken do not equally support that end. To achieve his goal, the fireman must enter the building. Few would dispute that doing so is a necessary part of the job. The actions taken to attempt to “flatten the curve” are not so clearly understood to be beneficial. There will likely be debates concerning the efficacy and necessity of these actions for decades to come.
Likewise for me in the trades.
I’m an electrician. My job necessitates that I go to the place. Since I work at a power plant, those of us in plant operations or maintenance have to be there. The clerks and others (our safety person for some reason) that can work from home do.