MiguelLuiz – so are you a civilized man? Are you a vegetarian/vegan, or one of the 851 shades of this?
If not then you have no ground to stand on preaching that hunting is bad or barbaric. Go take a stroll through the videos on you tube and on PETA’s website and really see what happens in a slaughterhouse. It ain’t exactly humane when they stun the animal, slice open its abdomen and the guts spill out into the basins while it’s still alive.
I’d rather have less processed and commercially raised food. Don’t like it? Don’t eat it. However you don’t get to pontificate about what and how I should eat, or anyone else should eat…..save your children perhaps.
So, I’ll ask you directly again – do you eat meat? Do you eat fish? If that fish is caught by you then it is innocent using your standard.
If you’re a vegetarian, take a look at the salt content of a soy/plant based burger. How much processing goes into making it, the list of chemicals, preservatives, and other items put into it. And oh yeah, some of them are quite tasty, I enjoy them on occasion, but given the modern dietary and food processing that goes on, it isn’t exactly clean and pristine either.
One of my most recent documentaries I’ve seen which is quite interesting is “Kiss the Ground” on Netflix. Very interesting take on how our farming and animal raising could be much better, but it goes against farming subsidies, and big agriculture.
DD Wiz – An assault style weapon…..what exactly is that? Oh no, it holds a magazine. Has a pistol grip (which is a better and more stable shooting support), and all sorts of features you don’t like but are in effect NO different than any other semi-automatic pistol, rifle, or shotgun that is manufactured, or has been manufactured for over 100 years. But that is a whole different story.
People do miss their target occasionally, so having extra rounds is nice. Or if that round went a little this way or that, it will allow you to re-shoot the animal in the heart or head and put it down – though that occurs pretty rarely.
Take a look at the toxicities, cholesterol, fat, protein, Omega 3, 6, and 9 levels in that unprocessed, non-commercially raised meat as compared to the stuff at the local grocery store. It is far healthier. Take a look at the massive E. coli outbreaks every year from commercially raised cattle. Remember mad cow? Oh yeah, farmers feeding brains to their own cattle – but they’re not innocent so that is OK.
I’ll keep eating my non-commercially raised food. Might even have one of my hunter friends sell or give me some venison. It’s fine eating.
DD Wiz – I don’t necessarily disagree that we have encroached more and more into the woods. In many areas they are overpopulated, and as our world becomes more and more populated with humans this is an issue.
It is astonishing that you think a deer or elk or moose is an innocent animal, but because a cow is raised for the express purpose of being slaughtered it is not innocent? That is just some whacky thinking in my book.
I sure do hope that you have no leather belts, or shoes, or car interiors, or couches, or watchbands. Oh wait, that is OK because they were raised for that purpose so they’re not innocent.
Do you eat fish? Is it farm raised or wild caught?
Presumably you eat vegetables. The modern farming practices are horrendous in their use of fertilizers and pesticides and contribute quite heavily to dead zones, such as exists in the Gulf of Mexico. Those fertilizers and pesticides cause deformities and deprive ocean critters of oxygen and other nutrients and cause them to die. But they’re innocent casualties of your chosen vegetarian lifestyle (which in general is about the healthiest diet there is but in no way free of harm.)
And yet so many on the left and on CNN and MSNBC are clamoring for some for of proof offering.
Except now you did it electronically, and if the incompetent FBI can figure it out you’ll be charged federally with wire fraud.
The odds are good you’ll be safe though. It is the FBI we’re talking about.
God how I hate that stupid movie.
Vega – it seems that you have the same issue a lot of kids coming out of college have nowadays. Degrees that may not be in the right concentration for an employer to want. It may not be true, but it just may be.
But for 30 years, you cannot blame other people. Something didn’t work in your favor initially, but for 30 years?
Meg, it may be different, but that is the origination of the quote.
Gaunt – then why won’t California let parts it that want to secede do so? Talk to a lot of folks in upstate NY who think that all the power comes from NYC and Albany, but totally leaves the other areas powerless.
Even parts of Oregon and Washington want to break away, because they are so waaaaaaaaaaaay different than Portland and Seattle…….but the liberals won’t let them.
Nice idea in theory, but beware what you wish for.
DD Wiz – again, so you apparently abhor a person that can go out and hunt. Hell, I can sit in my back yard and pick off a deer. Occasionally a moose. So you are Ok with killing an innocent animal raised for the purpose of feeding, but not an overpopulated deer. Got it. You’re Ok with the nastiness that is in an animal from the commercial feeding/meat process, but not the FAR more humane process of one shot to the hear with a bullet, arrow, or round from a musket loader. Hunters don’t want to use more than that because it damages the animal more and produces less meet.
Tracking gear isn’t expensive necessarily, and a lot of people don’t use it. They sit in a freaking stand and wait for hours for the animal to come by.
As for your neighbor giving away meat, some do, some don’t. Some sell it for a tidy profit thereby recouping their expenses. Most of the people near me might drive an hour at most to hunt, some just five minutes. Freezers can only be so big. I know folks that hunt and keep the meat and use it all year round because you can only hunt for a few months in the fall. So not everyone gives it away.
And OMG I didn’t calculate it to the penny what it costs for hunting. Oh no!
Again, that deer, moose, or elk meet is many times healthier than whatever you are getting from a grocery store or butcher if that meat was made via the commercial meat industry. Even if it is Whole Foods or Trader Joe’s. Huge difference between grass fed and grass finished.
By the way, I am not a she. I was born a male, with a penis, pissed through my penis this morning, and definitely identify as a man. But you think what you want.