Concretionist – I hear a lot of excuses. I say excuses because I grew up just above dirt poor. Getting government cheese and peanut butter. Electricity and phone cut off more times than I care to remember, usually 2-3 times a year. After I was discharged from the military I worked 3-4 jobs at a time while going to college no less than half time. I am not saying that it is easy, I am not saying that you won’t be exhausted. I did this for 8 years until I went to graduate school, and did it all debt free, until graduate school. And some of those jobs did pay minimum wage. I loathe being told that it cannot be done. It keeps people down, does not lift them up. It’s defeatist. It crushes their soul when they constantly get told they cannot succeed.
The government has FAILED. Over, and over, and over. If they did their job we would not have this ridiculous argument every year. The government has FAILED you. You have allowed it to fail you. If they really wanted to help you, it would have been indexed and attached to inflation.
You want the government to ensure that you get paid what you feel is enough. Good luck with that. It is up to YOU to better yourself. It is up to YOU to get yourself out of poverty. The government has never helped anyone do it. It is always up to the individual.
Maybe not named after babies, but I know a lot of “professional” athletes that are babies.
parkerinthehouse – If you say so. Or you could have a mature, adult, open-minded conversation with someone of a different point of view and understand where they come from. You might even learn something. And so would the other person.
Hopefully that’s not asking too much.
Concretionist – so you said it has been shown in your original statement. Yet you do not support your statement with any information which supports your assertion……only telling me to look it up.
Then you make a statement based on your learnings. You also, once again, state that your observation has “facts, not theory” yet choose to once again not support your statements.
A dollar is a dollar. Yet the minimum wage increase will, in all likelihood, have minimal effect within a few years on the very few that actually rely upon it because everyone else’s wages will increase proportionally.
How about this…..you get a better job than minimum wage. You stop flopping Whoppers. You stop changing oil at Jiffy Lube. You stop mopping floors. You get an education or work your way up and out of poverty.
Remember the the success sequence. You are FAR more likely to never be broke or live in poverty. Even better than the minimum wage. And that is concluded by liberals and conservatives. But instead, once again, we need the government to get you out of poverty (which it has not done since the “War on Poverty” began.). But we’ll keep repeating the same errors and be astonished that they do not work.
parkerinthehouse – Why is it pointless? Do you wish to not have a discussion? You get to make your points, I respond, and you choose to have a discussion. Very interesting tactic to have a mature, reasoned discussion.
Concretionist – "As has been shown every time it’s tried, raising the minimum wage increases the amount of money in circulation, increases the number of jobs (though probably not in the next 3 months), increases job satisfaction, reduces job turn over and increases the overall chance that a survey about quality of life will rate as better than “satisfactory.”
Please show me the data that supports this statement.
The situation you pointed out about adding money to the economy, how much of that is directly from the minimum wage earners?
parkerinthehouse – That is fine, however using the information from the BLS (which is about the best you actually expect given their access to information). https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2017/home.htm
There are very few that actually make minimum wage. Even fewer of them make minimum wage and actually use that as their sole source of income. Watching the media, and listening the blithering talking heads of the left it would seem that 30% of the people in our nation are making minimum wage. The point is that this is quite excessively overblown.
I am NOT against people make money. I just don’t see the minimum wage as the panacea that it is made out to be. You want more money? You need to make good decisions that don’t leave you broke financially. If the Democrats were serious about the minimum wage, they would tie to some sort of inflation index so they don’t get to revisit it every election cycle. Alas, they won’t because they don’t want to lose the argument point to show that they fight for the little man.
Oh no. Let’s remember that viable means of air conditioning has only been with us for about 60-70 years. Just imagine what human beings did for a few thousand years before that.
I like the ceiling fans on my house. Don’t suck up anywhere near the juice the heat pump/AC does.
RAGs – I’ll bet it was nature’s version of waterboarding.