Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for November 14, 2021

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    eastern.woods.metal  6 months ago

    Start with critical thinking.

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    stevesilver48  6 months ago

    If they had those skills they’d’ve known there had to be a catch.

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    sirbadger  6 months ago

    She never said anything that most people would disagree with, so why did the room clear out? Maybe Wiley didn’t want to say anything that was truly controversial because he was afraid of cancel culture.

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    Alexander the Good Enough  6 months ago

    I can’t tell. Were they MAGA Republicans or “woke” Democrats? I find both to be similarly closed-minded and unwilling to deal realistically with reality. A pox on them all.

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    Superfrog  6 months ago

    I know that you believe the facts that you wanted to hear but I’m not convinced that you realize that the truth you think you heard was not what you meant.

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    marilynnbyerly  6 months ago

    To misquote Monty Python’s Gumby, “Their brains hurt!”

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    Bilan  6 months ago

    The hard facts have to be followed by everybody, not just the other side.

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    hangedman  6 months ago

    Never let the facts get in the way of the truth.

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    in.amongst  6 months ago

    Ah yes – the cold embrace of hard facts. Not everyone’s cup of tea, is it!?!

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    Alabama Al  6 months ago

    Why bother attending? If you’re a true-believer of a political philosophy (no matter what that philosophy may be) you already have the " Unvarnished Truth." What are you going to hear there that you didn’t already know?

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    shanen0  6 months ago

    Politics, eh? So was 2018 the last mostly fair and peaceful election in America?

    How do the #zombies of the #fake_GOP feel about peaceful democracy in a republic?They’re against it.

    A failed insurrection of losers is still an #Insurrection.

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    Bullet Bronson Premium Member 6 months ago

    Tough crowd.

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    Cornelius Noodleman  6 months ago

    She shouldn’t have worn that pink dress.

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    franki_g  6 months ago

    It’s not easy. When any human is threatened or feels attacked, our ears close and we go into Protection Mode.Plus, when we’ve invested years of our lives into a given belief, it’s really awful to face that it might not be true. It feels like wasted years and/or anger that we’ve been mislead. I’ve known many people who would rather continue to believe rather than face and deal with the loss & anger.Of course, nothing is really wasted. We learn, develop character and depth from errors and grief. We just have to be brave enough to go through the process.

    And I believe ALL of us have areas that need clearer understanding, continued growth and revision BUTThat’s not easy when we feel attacked.

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    Charlie Fogwhistle  6 months ago

    Wiley, you hit the nail on the head this time, and a great many of the commenters prove your point. “It’s my way or the highway!!!”

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    Walrus Gumbo Premium Member 6 months ago

    Truth doesn’t play well with others! It doesn’t compromise for your convenience!

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    FreyjaRN Premium Member 6 months ago

    Color me unsurprised.

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    Can't Sleep  6 months ago

    “It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they were fooled.” – Mark Twain.

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    jessie d. Premium Member 6 months ago

    thus Trump supporters throw over the furniture before trying to through over the U.S. of A. They’re still trying with GOP endorsement. The threat is from within, how does one fight that? They could be a neighbor or even a family member lying in wait for the denouement.

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    loudmouthbass  6 months ago

    Dr. Levine?

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    Alexander the Good Enough  6 months ago

    Infallibly, it’s profoundly rude to confront people with reality and “The Truth.” Invariably, they much prefer their agreeable lies, even if they know full well that they’re lies. It’s ever been thus and forever will be…

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    sandpiper  6 months ago

    The light of reason is often masked by skepticism, the latter being far more prevalent than the former.

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    unfair.de  6 months ago

    Believe can’t be truth, since then knowledge superseds believe. The proof that God exists ends religion.

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    chets3dogs Premium Member 6 months ago

    The previous commentatore could change his name to Boris? I’m too old for this MAA or woke, so I can fall back on Vonnegut or Kierkegaard or whatever Absurdist comforts me. Peggy Lee sang “Everybody Has the Right to be Wrong”, but I listen on my headphones. So why does Alexander wish a pox? Isn’t that the same murderous or harmful thing? It’s funny, man!

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    ewaldoh  6 months ago

    Our government was first run by the educated and wealthy leaders. As that number grew and we became a nation of laws, the lawyers took over. Law-101 clearly preaches that winning an argument is #1. #2 states that if you can’t win, make sure you gain a concession that’s almost as good. When we were led by statesmen who under stood that, those two directives were followed.

    Until a decade ago, we elected leaders and then forgot about them until the next election time. Today, campaigning is continuous; and it makes every Joe and Karen think they’re a part of the process. Celebrity status in sports and entertainment has morphed from selling shoes and cars to selling a national agenda. Now we have our neighbors thinking they’re experts in economics, geology, medicine, and world politics. The really unfortunate part is that our elected leaders aren’t any better.

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    LawrenceS  6 months ago

    No one ever went broke telling an audience what it wanted to hear.

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    dflak  6 months ago

    I love it. It works both ways.

    I like to watch Ancient Aliens for two reasons (1) they go to some very neat places and expose parts of history with which I might not be familiar and (2) I find it comical when I see the leaps in logic they take to conclude that everything including the law of gravity has an extraterrestrial cause.

    I also get this same comical sensation when looking at news from various sources.

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    NeedaChuckle Premium Member 6 months ago

    When I’m told I’m wrong, I don’t spew, I check it out. If I am wrong, I thank the person who corrected me and move on.

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    Lenavid  6 months ago

    Like the Trump-Russian Collusion lie that the Leftists and Media propagandized to keep Trump from upsetting their destruction of America to further Communistic Globalization?

    Shouldn’t the sheeple be angry at Democrats, RINOs, and the MSM for lying to them to manipulate them, and stop hating the first patriot in decades who was being successful in halting the nation’s decline?

    Or can they simply not handle the Truth?

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    webunkn  6 months ago

    We’ll start with this: RO vassines will NOT stop this pandemic cold. Hello? Where’s everyone going??

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    Curiosity Premium Member 6 months ago

    I really wish I could find the reference explaining this phenomenon, but I don’t remember where I saw it and my record of it disappeared in a hard drive issue. There was a neurological experiment done and reported a few years back on cognition patterns where they wired up different people and walked them through a logical discourse to see what brain use pattern they would record. One of their findings was that when dealing with ‘true believers’ in anything the subject would follow the discussion just fine, using the logic centers of the brain, until there was an element that went against that belief. At that point the active portion of the brain changed completely, from the logic pathway to the emotional ones, and the subject could no longer follow the discussion.

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    awcoffman  6 months ago

    To those who embrace falsehood, anyone who proclaims the truth is “biased.”

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    Masterskrain Premium Member 6 months ago

    Yup, they’re all Qpublicans.

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    ajr58(1)  6 months ago

    Gaelic storm, Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story: https://youtu.be/clfP7HGCNck

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    carlzr  6 months ago

    How many people refuse to stop smoking because that would mean facing the truth that their habit makes it more likely they will suffer a long, painful death?

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    JoeStoppinghem Premium Member 6 months ago

    With the internet, social media etc., people can read, hear, watch what they believe, not what they need to know.

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    Jim2g  6 months ago

    Democrats suck the life out of the people

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    Charlie Fogwhistle  6 months ago

    The idea that ‘I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it’ used to be a thing here in the good old USA. In fact it pretty much defined what Freedom of Speech is all about. But now with young people demanding that speakers at public events be restricted to only people who toe a certain ideological line, and with the supposed adults caving in to them instead of using it as a teaching point about what our liberties mean in action, I fear that the American Experiment in Democracy is about to reach it’s end. And that makes me very sad, indeed.

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    chmsam  6 months ago

    With the Internet so easy to use as a fact checker, a bias checker, and a source to answer “cui bono?” questions only a fool who’s being led by charlatans wouldn’t use it to keep from being led like sheep to slaughter. But it’s the charlatans who fight hardest to discredit using the Internet in the doing if exactly that.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

    https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

    https://www.opensecrets.org/

    Why does using these scare those who tell you not to use them or those who lie about them? Maybe Giuliani saying that “The truth is not the truth” was just propaganda and another part of their Big Lie. Maybe everyone should use these simple tools to find out things.

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    laskeans Premium Member 6 months ago

    I don’t think it matters which side it is supposed to be. THAT is the joke.

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    Sun  6 months ago

    Truth, Facts: Marxist Disciple Democrats deny them. Instead, Marxist Disciple Democrats embrace Lies, and Delusion.

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    vaughnrl2003 Premium Member 6 months ago

    I think that fact and truth are pretty much what’s wrong. We don’t want to change the facts, we want to change reality so that the facts are different. Fact: I have no coffee. Change: I go to the store and get coffee. Fact: I have coffee.

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    Free or Not? Premium Member 6 months ago

    THE TRUTH shall MAKE YOU FLEE!

    (not as good as “The Truth shall set you free”, but it is a sad reality today).

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    LKrueger41  6 months ago

    No! No! Shut up! Never mention Igor Danchenko!

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    Durak Premium Member 6 months ago

    Too bad facts don’t have the same effect in goComics comments section.

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    mrwiskers  6 months ago

    And the lazy pols who spend their precious public time whipping up discord instead of focusing on critical issues.

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    Linguist  6 months ago

    Unfortunately, politicians and news media outlets of all stripes have never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Equally sad is the fact that the public will accept the lie as gospel truth if it coincides with their own preconceptions and prejudices!

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    RussHeim  6 months ago

    There’s always a catch . . .

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    car2ner  6 months ago

    there are more than 2 sides to truth. Truth doesn’t care what we think about it

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    robhanold  6 months ago

    maybe it was just a PTA meeting.

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    dflak  6 months ago

    There is a word for when people believe in “hard facts [that] refute what you believe is true.” Republicans call that being WOKE.

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    Llama of Fashion  6 months ago

    But only if the hard facts agree with my truth!

    “You’re saying it’s a falsehood. . . . Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts.” — Kellyanne Conway, Jan. 22, 2017

    “Truth isn’t truth!” — Rudy Giuliani, Aug. 19, 2018

    And it just slid downhill from there . . . . . . . .

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    Ubintold  6 months ago

    Joe Biden said he preferred “truth over facts”.

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    brooklyn51  6 months ago

    Only tell me the truths I want to hear.

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    David P. McLaughlin  6 months ago

    To: Alexander the Good EnoughYou claim MAGA Republicans don’t live in “Realville”; Based on what? We believe in science: 1. You ARE what you were born as. 2. There are TWO sexes: male and female. [Surgery and hormone treatments DON’T change this; That is why 40% of people who get “sex change surgery” kill themselves.] 3. An unborn human baby, IS an unborn human! 4. Putting up a wall WILL prevent criminals from bringing drugs into the USA; It will also stop hordes of “line jumpers” from flooding into the USA ahead of those who apply to LEGALLY live here! 5. The evidence shows that the Earth’s magnetic field is weakening letting more solar wind and cosmic rays enter, and THIS changes the climate; AND, the latest theory which most aligns with the measured evidence is: The solar system passes through a galactic magnetic current and dust wave every 12,000 years, which causes the Sun to micro nova. [If you want something to really worry about, it has been 12,000 years since since the last micro nova. The survivors will be able to keep from freezing using simple natural fuels such as coal and oil, after technology and ‘green’ solar panels and wind turbines are destroyed.]

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    JudyAz  6 months ago

    That’s one huge exit door! Or kindergarten-size chairs.

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    mpolo11 Premium Member 6 months ago

    Story on NPR yesterday along these lines.

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    ChessPirate  6 months ago

    She got cocky…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJJ0LY8TiIE

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    Wizard of Ahz-no relation  6 months ago

    You can’t handle the truth!

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    schaefer jim  6 months ago

    They are Neo Nazis, they have a hard time with the cold hard facts.

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    wsedrel Premium Member 6 months ago

    “Woke” Dems don’t lie through their teeth. I don’t always agree w/ them (I’m a former GOP), but…

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    cmxx  6 months ago

    So many folks believe that changing their minds or admitting they were wrong means that they are, or will be perceived as, weak.

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    Rand al'Thor  6 months ago

    “We choose truth over facts!”

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    chain gang charlie  6 months ago

    If all you pea brained hacks would just get a good look at the Hubble telescope deep space photos and realize what is there in just a small segment of what is all there, you may realize what what idiots you are…

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    mikeywilly  6 months ago

    If you were to run a politician for office, that told nothing but the truth(this IS theoretical), the public would rip him to pieces because he didn’t tell their truth!

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    dja1701  6 months ago

    It’s not funny because it’s true.

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    Vangoghdog01  6 months ago

    It is not the facts, it is how those facts are spun.

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    Mediatech  6 months ago

    “What is truth?” – Pontius Pilate

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    Ka`ōnōhi`ula`okahōkūmiomio`ehiku  6 months ago

    At first, I thought she was talking to a religious group.

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    Will_Scarlet  6 months ago

    It’s not Facts vs. Beliefs that’s the problem – it’s the winners vs. losers mentality. People don’t just want to believe one thing, they want to utterly destroy anything contrary to it.

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    patriots_aren't_partisan  6 months ago

    The room was filled with Facebook users.

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    sisterea  6 months ago

    It is unfortunate jusst how true this is

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    Plods with ...™ Premium Member 6 months ago

    ’bout right

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    syzygy47  6 months ago

    Is it burying my head in the sand that I just now blocked a Facebook poster selling “Let’s Go Brandon” shirts and toques? Just seems a ridiculous exercise in Dem-baiting.

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    aunt granny  6 months ago

    Too many of the comments illustrate the point.

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    Stat_man99  6 months ago

    Looks like a Democrat convention—bombard them with FACTS that destroy their BELIEFS and they turn moot.

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    eddi_tbh  6 months ago

    That was doomed from the start.

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    bwsevier  6 months ago

    Way too big a proportion of the human race falls into that type – politics are immaterial.

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    kentmarx36  6 months ago

    FACTS!?!? Republicans don’t need no facts … They just get in the way of their stupidity.

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    harebell  6 months ago

    Does Wiley determine his success on a given day based on how many comments he manages to stir up…rather like poking an ant hill to see how many run? He really hit a nerve today.

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    calliarcale  6 months ago

    Ain’t that the truth. One thing humans hate is to be wrong.

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    bakana  6 months ago

    Here’s to our New Truth, Same as the Old Truth!

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    Charlie Fogwhistle  6 months ago

    What does the First Amendment permit and forbid? Whatever the U.S. Supreme Court says, and they can’t agree, either. Case in point: Is nude dancing protected by the First Amendment.

    https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/27/nude-dancing

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    aussie399 Premium Member 5 months ago

    Shortest demmy meeting in history

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