Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for November 20, 2014

  1. Pictures 087
    Baarorso  about 9 years ago

    Wiley, if we want a lecture on nutrition, we’ll contact either PETA or the CSPI.

     •  Reply
  2. 654px red eyed tree frog   litoria chloris edit1
    Superfrog  about 9 years ago

    Diabetes and cardiac disease, sweet heart.

     •  Reply
  3. Pictures 087
    Baarorso  about 9 years ago

    Don’t forget NightShade that “your output is derived from your input”. My take is that Wiley’s a vegan and wants us to be the same.

     •  Reply
  4. I m waitring
    Barker62  about 9 years ago

    And 1 of my neighbors who lives a mile down the road has been a vegan for the last 35 years and takes more meds than I do. So what’s your point?

     •  Reply
  5. Missing large
    ChrisCAllen  about 9 years ago


     •  Reply
  6. Birthcontrol
    Dtroutma  about 9 years ago

    A truly balanced diet, proportion too, works. Even the Dalai Lama was told by his doctors to start eating some meat, as the vegan thing was killing him. Vegetarians who still get animal protein can get by. That includes “dairy”.

     •  Reply
  7. Not quite 70
    unnormal  about 9 years ago

    Wiley seems to know all our ‘buttons’, doesn’t he?

     •  Reply
  8. Out little avatar
    dadoctah  about 9 years ago

    When they told me I was diabetic, I just figured “okay, so when I decide it’s time to check out, all I have to do is request a big bag of marshmallows.”

     •  Reply
  9. 2006 afl collingwood
    nosirrom  about 9 years ago

    What’s a good diet for one person may be a bad diet for another. Our genes do play a role in this. Take me for example. I like beef, pork, chicken, seafood. I also like vegetables, fruit, nuts, grains and dairy (especially ice cream, my serving size is usually a pint). Some people would say that with my diet I’m heading for a coronary. The blood test from my physical this year show that everything is within normal ranges (cholesterol – 179). over the last 10 years my cholesterol has ranged between 171 and 186 without any changes to my diet. Go figure!

     •  Reply
  10. Missing large
    Ol Skool  about 9 years ago

    vegan my butt, my dinner crapped all over your dinner

     •  Reply
  11. Walter brennon avatar
    didereaux  about 9 years ago

    That’s it! This strip is history for me until the aliens release the real Wiley. He wants to shinny up to Gwynith Paltrow that’s his business, but I don’t have to watch or read it.

     •  Reply
  12. Avatar 3
    pcolli  about 9 years ago

    Why do people assume they heve the right to tell others what to eat? I’ve never been told by a vegetarian / vegan to stop eating meat, but I know that omnivores are more likely to be judgemental..I do find vegetables tastier than meat, though.

     •  Reply
  13. Millionchimps1
    tripwire45  about 9 years ago

    I eat mostly protein, vegetables, and fruits with a minimum on carbs and work out at the gym 5 or 6 days a week. I’m also 60 yrs old and feel fine. No meds, no doctors. Really, being vegan isn’t the only way to go. Of course I also don’t eat fast food and hardly any junk food and absolutely no soft drinks. The missus makes most of what we eat by scratch and it’s all pretty yummy. No complaints.

     •  Reply
  14. 250
    ladykat  about 9 years ago

    You can’t cure diabetes. It can be controlled, but never cured.

     •  Reply
  15. Missing large
    Cook for Good  about 9 years ago

    Watch the documentary Forks Over Knives for an easy and entertaining look at how a whole foods plant-based diet can prevent and reverse the diseases of affluence. If you want to dig through the mounting science, check out the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. I’d love to see this series of strips as a poster that could be hung in waiting rooms and cafeterias.

     •  Reply
  16. Missing large
    jbmlaw01  about 9 years ago

    Leftism = humorless.

     •  Reply
  17. Missing large
    Hardthought  about 9 years ago

    “Vegetarian” is a Native American word that means “bad hunter”.

     •  Reply
  18. Missing large
    Hardthought  about 9 years ago

    “Vegetarian” is a Native American word that means “bad hunter”.

     •  Reply
  19. Missing large
    Cozmik Cowboy  about 9 years ago

    OK, yeah, the American diet is nasty – but every vegan I’ve ever known has been sick ALL the time; why would you weant to live longer & never feel good?

     •  Reply
  20. Missing large
    valnaples  about 9 years ago

    KUDOS to Wiley Miller! People are dying needlessly due to heart disease, America’s #1 killer for men and women…which is totally preventable and reversible IF we eat plants. Sure, vegans can be unhealthy if they choose processed junk like vegan donuts & cookies but if you go PLANT-STRONG, you’re diseases will likely disappear, not overnight, but over the course of 4 to 10 weeks, you’ll LOOK better and feel better!

     •  Reply
  21. Missing large
    ekw555  about 9 years ago

    this strip sure does attract people who like to argue in the comments.

     •  Reply
  22. Menard2
    habfan40  about 9 years ago

    My friend is a life long vegan (he’s from India) He had a triple by-pass and has type 1 DIABETES. When I kidded him about that he said that its HOW a vegan cooks their food that leads to these problems. They use lots of rich sauces and fry in oils for flavor

     •  Reply
  23. Missing large
    bagbalm  about 9 years ago

    Bunk. The British Medical journal lancet published back in the early 50s that a high carbohydrate low fat diet was what kills you. The official government diet has one advantage. It is both cheap and high profit. Hard to beat that from their view.

     •  Reply
  24. Santabutcherpin
    ishannon5289  about 9 years ago

    My only problem, is apparently moderation is a silly idea. It is either one extreme diet or the other.

     •  Reply
  25. Missing large
    mplaffey  about 9 years ago

    Problem is that scientists are changing there tune and the consensus is no longer that meat and diary cause heart attacks.

     •  Reply
  26. Missing large
    lynxreign  about 9 years ago

    Going Vegan is not a cure for diabetes, nor it is a replacement for bypass surgery. What utter idiocy. I have diabetes, none of the medical literature even suggests that.

     •  Reply
  27. Reading cat
    morningglory73 Premium Member about 9 years ago

    Beans and greens…oh yummy…. :-(

     •  Reply
  28. Missing large
    dabugger  about 9 years ago

    Ah yes, one and one equals two, and so on.

     •  Reply
  29. 155224 164604216911392 284199 n
    maxcat631  about 9 years ago

    I am, like all of us humans on this planet, an omnivore. I will not change that to suit someones whim. Though, for my own health’s sake.. I have cut my sugar and salt intake back, severely.

     •  Reply
  30. Missing large
    twainreader  about 9 years ago

    Next week- The wonders of Common Core!!

     •  Reply
  31. Missing large
    jespence97  about 9 years ago

     •  Reply
  32. Missing large
    sarah413 Premium Member about 9 years ago

    It all comes down to the age old saying, “Everything I like in life is either illegal, immoral or, fattening.”

     •  Reply
  33. Missing large
    FashionFan  about 9 years ago

    I think this is awesome! Comic strips make social commentary all the time, what’s so bad about a little nod to health?

     •  Reply
  34. Sg county zoo 077
    loner34  about 9 years ago

    I am a meat eater, I hate most veggies, and I don’t do any measuring etc. BTW I am 80 years old, and going strong.

     •  Reply
  35. Inbox 4660
    goweeder  about 9 years ago
    Night-Gaunt49 said, 40 minutes ago,


    Leftism = humorless.-Rightism=cruel and humorless~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I’m with you, Bro.

     •  Reply
  36. Missing large
    Iamalwayswrong  about 9 years ago

    Personally, I’m paleo. (Well, paleoish. I take their “all grains are bad” mantra and trade my breads for pastries. My “bad” might as well taste good.) But it says something that after so many years of dietary research that fad diets continue to spread. Makes one wonder about yesterday’s comic.

     •  Reply
  37. Missing large
    LeePIII Premium Member about 9 years ago

    LOSING WEIGHT can help eliminate diabetes. Avoiding RED meat can help reduce arterial clogging. High protein diets can assist with losing weight. Avoiding high glycemic foods will avoid aggravating diabetes.

    Being vegan will definitely make one lose weight!


     •  Reply
  38. Inbox 4660
    goweeder  about 9 years ago

    As the mother of a diabetic who became diabetic at the age of twenty, I might have a bit more knowledge about the disease than most people. She has always been slim, and she has what is called Type1 Diabetes, which is incurable. Unfortunately, she is also what is called a ‘brittle diabetic,’ which means her blood sugar level is on a roller coaster. She tries to maintain a tight control, testing her blood sugar often and adjusting the amount of insulin she uses. She also is quite knowledgeable about diet and stays on a proper diet at all times. This disease has controlled her life. It is much more complicated than most people realize. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Folks who believe they are qualified to diagnose it and suggest remedies are living in a dream world.,

     •  Reply
  39. Danae
    Wiley creator about 9 years ago

    For those who somehow think a plant-based diet equals weakness….

     •  Reply
  40. Image
    ladylagomorph76  about 9 years ago

    I was a total vegetarian, low fat, no sweets, walked every day…had my cholesterol checked, and it came in at over three hundred. I refined my diet a bit more, upped my excercise routine, and it got worse, the good cholesterol went down and the bad way up. The doctor said I was at even higher risk then! So statins it was. I still eat right and take care of myself, but the family history of nasty cholesterol is a bummer.

     •  Reply
  41. Santabutcherpin
    ishannon5289  about 9 years ago

    Again though, it seems that just about everyone has decided that moderation is a ludicrous idea. You must find the enemy and completely cut it from your diet!

     •  Reply
  42. Missing large
    luisp  about 9 years ago

     •  Reply
  43. Missing large
    Pr0phet  about 9 years ago

    Thanks Wiley.

    There is a reason dairy and meat is pushed so heavily ($$). It’s not because of how amazing it is for us. The government created an agenda to push specific foods in history and dairy and meat is it’s current subsidized food of choice. And allowing addictive ingredients into unhealthy food by food scientists. It’s interesting that we push milk drinking paste the age of being a toddler. And that every time an article or research is published on eggs or milk not being ‘the best’ for us, mroe research immediately comes out countering the claim.

     •  Reply
  44. Missing large
    Pr0phet  about 9 years ago

    On that note, China is seeing an increase in weight not just due to less exercise, but there’s been a strong push for increased milk and other dairy consumption. American’s do it, so surely it must be a well founded idea.


     •  Reply
  45. Strega
    P51Strega  about 9 years ago

    Funny, I can say the same for my omnivorous eating habits. And I really enjoy beef, lamb, & pork.

     •  Reply
  46. Santabutcherpin
    ishannon5289  about 9 years ago

    I have been thinking. Don’t both the pharm and health food industry push pills to fix what is wrong with your diet?

     •  Reply
  47. 09613c06 77e3 4280 86d7 385974e33a5d
    bobdingus  about 9 years ago

    The meat and dairy industry really has pulled Americans into Stupidville. Studies have repeatedly shown that the human body can get all the protein it needs through plant sources, and statistics clearly show that vegetarians and vegans are as a group healthier than those that eat meat, although calorie consumption and exercise are the biggest factors.

     •  Reply
  48. Missing large
    dflak  about 9 years ago

    I don’t mind my doctor telling me what I should eat. That’s why I visit him once a year for a physical. I do mind politicians legislating what I am allowed to eat.

     •  Reply
  49. Deep gold lg
    jhampa  about 9 years ago

    well we certainly stirred up a hornets nest here didn’t we. I dropped my cholesterol way down by going quasi vegan. That means some days I am vegan and some I am an omivor, eat anything in front of me.

     •  Reply
  50. Ig243 13 02
    fdhefty  about 9 years ago

    sugar and some vegetable oils cause diabetes and hardening of the arteries. It is the processed foods we eat and the GMO plants that are fed to animals that are creating the health crisis. Since I went on a low carb, high fat diet, I have lost 20 lbs. It is sure difficult to get away from the sweets.

     •  Reply
  51. 11 06 126
    Varnes  about 9 years ago

    Meat, hard vegetables, (Beans, broccoli, peas, corn, cauliflower, etc), very little bread, pasta or donuts…..It’s the carbs that make you fat. If you don’t burn them off, they accumulate as fat….And that leads to all kinds of problems….

     •  Reply
  52. Computerhead
    Spyderred  about 9 years ago

    Folks it’s not an absolute a or b choice. Do some research on healthy eating, or read a book about a lifestyle free of nicotine and liquor, excessive sugar and so on. Meat in small servings or rare occasions; seafood, and so on. Do the research and stop trying to post it as vegan/meat. That’s just being lazy and trying to excuse the lazy by posing a false choice.

     •  Reply
  53. Bobbyicon1
    natureboyfig4 Premium Member about 9 years ago

    This is B.S. There is no magic “cure” for diabetes!

     •  Reply
  54. Downloadfile
    Guilty Bystander  about 9 years ago

    Nice to know I don’t have to go to church on Sunday as long as we’ve got people like Wiley Miller preaching at us during the week.

     •  Reply
  55. Albagast jpeg
    belgarathmth  about 9 years ago

    I tried going vegan for about eight weeks a short time ago. I didn’t lose an ounce of weight, and my diabetes and triglycerides stayed just the same – sky high. That’s because I ate way too many calories worth of nuts, soy, and grains, and I still didn’t exercise. It’s not what type of food you eat that does you in. It’s obesity and lack of exercise. Going vegan will not help you with heart disease unless you moderate your caloric intake and start exercising daily.

     •  Reply
  56. Missing large
    eatplants  about 9 years ago

    Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, Dr. Caldwell Essylstein, Dr. John McDougall, and other MDs tell the truth about nutrition and plant based eating. I’ve been following their advice for 36 years, and never felt better. This strip and the comments here seem to demonstrate that we are all very attached to our diets and our opinions. Still the strip is doing a public service if even 1 reader cuts back on meat and dairy. And choosing to not eat bacon really is a life and death choice for the pigs.

     •  Reply
  57. 1011630 10203957876199859 2650481195953203305 n
    Vegan Potato Star  about 9 years ago

    If you are not eating a healthy vegan diet yet, you are honestly missing out. There are healthy vegans who eat whole food, plant-based and unhealthy vegans who eat processed vegan crap (Oreos are vegan), so don’t get the two mixed up. A plant-based lifestyle will cause you to drastically slow the aging process and even reverse it. I’m pushing 50, btw. To those who have such a problem with the vegan message, look up “factory farming” in google images. I dare you to take your head out of the sand for a few minutes.

     •  Reply
  58. Missing large
    1148559  about 9 years ago

    Moderation is the key… there is no need to cut meat out of your diet completely..Also, even if vegan was the “perfect” diet, it won’t help if Bob doesn’t change his lifestyle and exercise more.

     •  Reply
  59. Lucy2
    IQTech61  about 9 years ago

    Meat and dairy do not cause coronary artery disease. That information is based on the highly biased and highly flawed study by Ansel Keys.

    Heart surgeons now know that it is inflammation that causes hardening of the arteries, not high cholesterol. The leading cause of inflammation is sugar and highly processed foods like margarine.

    Yes, vegan can fix this. But so can Atkins.

     •  Reply
  60. Missing large
    attius9 Premium Member about 9 years ago

    I don’t agree. I eat a very high protein diet (mostly chicken breast, fish and low fat dairy), and my total cholesterol hasn’t been over 145 ( that’s not a typo) since i began regular tests decades ago. And a plant-based diet high in simple carbs, such as pasta and processed white rice, contributes to diabetes, because the carbs turn quickly into sugars. I would also add that a diet high in soy will drive up estrogen in men and drive down testosterone, causing other physical complications. I can support a vegetarian diet, because it can include an adequate amount of complete proteins. But a vegan diet is just plain unhealthy.l

     •  Reply
  61. Missing large
    lmonteros  about 9 years ago

    Ummm..even my vegetarian son, who does his food research, says that science no longer sees red meat, dairy, and eggs as culprits in high cholesterol.

     •  Reply
  62. Missing large
    miraminn  about 9 years ago

    Wiley, thank you for writing this series. I just wish you’d cited your research sources, because many folks are unaware that a whole-food, plant-based diet has been shown through MD-conducted, published scientific research to reverse accumulations of plaque in the arteries, among other things. Whether or not the vegan diet is ultimately healthy is another question altogether, but it is an effective treatment for certain conditions, and the average American eats far more meat than the recommended daily amount. Scaling back can be very beneficial without eliminating it entirely, as well as supplementing with plant protein.

     •  Reply
  63. Bill watson1b
    BillWa  about 9 years ago

    Can we get off this Vegan diatribe?

     •  Reply
  64. Missing large
    wherehaveallthetalentedartistsgone  about 9 years ago

    Trouble is, it’s backwards. Meat has no carbs. Veggies give you diabetes – sugar and starches are vegetable-only products. Newest research suggest that it’s true of heart disease as well.

     •  Reply
  65. Dicktracy silhouetteed
    Spade Jr.  about 9 years ago

    A little disappointing to see the traditional and totally false ideas about treating heart disease in the current story. Low-carb eating (with plenty of meat as well as veggies!), a customized regimen of nutrients in the proper dosages for you individually, and chelation treatment works far better for most than what this strip is preaching. How am I so sure? I’ve done it. Almost the same situation ten years ago, now, the best blood pressure ever, no diabetes, no problems—and all documented. Let’s move on to the next story line and forget about this one, eh?

     •  Reply
  66. Sammy on gocomics
    Say What Now‽ Premium Member about 9 years ago

    Willy you almost had me until you bring up the Vegan diet. It is heavily based on ethical principles rather than scientific theories. The most sensible posts on this sight were from Nairebes and others who suggested moderation, more vegetables, and little meat.

     •  Reply
  67. Photo0207
    jenifer flower  about 9 years ago

    Wiley is right about the health benefits!!!(although i’m not vegan-i eat a healthy Thai diet on our island)

     •  Reply
  68. Lucy2
    IQTech61  about 9 years ago

    Actually – Riley is wrong. Going vegan will not cure diabetes any more than going Atkins or South Beach will cure diabetes. Going vegan may control the diabetes much better than drugs and without the side effects but only if the diabetic sticks to the vegan diet and does not overdo it with fruits or carbs. If all the person does is eliminate meat and dairy and compensates with a lot of bread and fruit, the diabetes will not be controlled.

     •  Reply
  69. Bcb9e9d7d78ab1710ebd05f21f05f061
    lectricdude  about 9 years ago


     •  Reply
  70. Missing large
    FranziskaM  about 9 years ago

    Wiley Miller, CONGRATULATIONS! So few people have the courage to say it right out loud! So true! THANK YOU!

     •  Reply
Sign in to comment

More From Non Sequitur