How many cases of widespread undetected voter fraud have been identified so far?
If you can win Honestly, Cheat, will be the NEW Republican Motto, in the next Decade. Since they are losing their Base…
That must be a Democrat trying to scare people.Republicans want people to show an ID when voting!!!!!!WOW!What’s next? An ID when buying alcohol?!?!?Or how about when you get pulled over or a police officer asks for ID when you’re on the street?!?!?!OMG!!!!!I can only think of one kind of person that would mind showing ID when voting. FRAUDS!And that’s who the Dims count on fo votes.
what i don’t get is that there is no proof of voter fraud but there is proof of dead people voting aren’t they the same thing
Why not use existing drivers’ licenses or state IDs? Why do they need special voter IDs? Just how will it be any harder to counterfeit a voter ID card than it currently is to counterfeit a drivers’ license?
The issue doesn’t seem to be voter identification so much as the type of acceptable voter identification and access to voting. Motivation for restrictions is obviously political. Very third world.
Support for voter ID is a lot like Republican economic ideas; sound nice in principle but produced terrible results (Laffer curve). The way voter ID is being instituted right now it does disenfranchise thousands of people who previously voted. The state governments aren’t setting up the mechanisms or funding to make it an effective practice. They just want to make sure only the “right” people vote.
I am afraid, very afraid, of a total Republican/Goldman Sachs take-over.
Ken M: You don’t know what you’re talking about, or, more likely, you’re simply lying.. Try learning a little bit. You can start here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes
The only voter fraud cases currently being found are by Republicans and their candidates.
while doing research for a city election in 2009 i found of the 70 people i know in my precinct who voted in 11/08 were 2 dead people [02/08 and 07/08] that is only 3%
in order to have a case you have to grab them in the act when i found a few months later that dead had voted nothing could be done
what % does it have to reach for you anti id people to think it is a problem?
Should have an IQ test before voting. Bet ConserveGov wouldn’t be so happy when they are the one being disenfranchised
so motivemagus 3% is trivial amount // what is non trivial amount ?
If you are that interested in voting, you can overcome any voter-ID law. If you start soon enough. My wife had the hardest time getting a passport because the county in California when she was born did not issue official Birth Certificates at the time. They will certify, based on hospital records, but there was no actual birth certificate, and never will be for people born at that time.
And even if records are available, you are depending on a bureaucrat who has no reason to rush to move your paperwork. If you start the process a month before the election, and the state gets you your info within 8 weeks, you don’t get to vote, and it’s not necessarily your fault.
But if you start early enough, understand the nuances of the law clearly enough, and you are willing to persevere, you will be able to vote in most any state that it’s legal for you to do so.
So the question becomes: of all the problems we have in this country, is voter fraud the highest priority at this time? Could we possibly put some of this energy into, say, tax reform or immigration reform?
“There is only one motivation for imposing burdens on voting that are ostensibly designed to discourage voter-impersonation fraud,” [Posner] writes, “and that is to discourage voting by persons likely to vote against the party responsible for imposing the burdens.” More specifically, he observes, photo ID laws are “highly correlated with a state’s having a Republican governor and Republican control of the legislature and appear to be aimed at limiting voting by minorities, particularly blacks.”
Judge Richard A. Posner (Reagan-appointed, conservative 7th Circuit Court of Appeals judge)
“The majority of states have voter ID laws, yet Democrats act like they’re a never before heard of concept. So does Anderson.”=Nope. As you well know, this is not about voter ID. It’s about voter suppression, i.e. making it harder for people to vote, especially younger and minority voters. ==None of the issues cited by the Fox “news” viewers have included voter fraud. They have alleged election fraud, which is NOT addressed by voter suppression.=Maybe YOU can show how shortening voting hours and closing polling places in minority districts will affect voter fraud.
The only way to control these attacks on voter rights is to stick it out and vote. Unfortunately people who actually support democracy are the least likely to vote in any election. There must be a solution here before we accept the next Caesar. (KOCH???) The right wing fringe is more than happy to stand on line.
If you can’t figure out how to get a state ID, you really have no business voting. The End.
the way this is looking the dem’s say it is voter suppression if the dead can’t vote because any time any one suggest that the voter rolls get updated they complain about voter suppression