There’s of course no danger from pipelines, well unless you consider kids killed in Washington state when one failed, or several natural gas pipelines in Texas over a short period of time that killed several people.
BTW, that old and failed infrastructure for highways, bridges, and railroad lines that haven’t been maintained, also applies to those oil and gas pipelines the companies aren’t about to spend any extra bucks from their profit margins to maintain.
I have a friend who was involved in getting that mess cleaned up. What the pipeline owner calls, “clean” is not what people living with the mess call “clean”.
Some oil can be collected with skimmers or foam. The Canadian tar sands oil that is flowing through the Arkansas neighborhood is heavy and sinks in water. No one knows what it will do to the aquifer or the streams.
First thought – In numerous reports from Arkansas, residents who have abandoned their homes because of this oil have said over and over again they were not aware the pipeline was there. In my area, real estate agents have to disclose things like that. If the seller of a home says the house is haunted, THAT has to be diclosed; you also have to disclose if a violent crime occurred in the home. Is this poor regulation or an unintentional loophole in the disclosure rules?^Second – All other arguments aside, why is it necessary to pipe the Keystone chemicals to the hurricane prone Gulf Coast across the tornado prone prairies? Why can’t a shorter pipe line be built to a new, more efficient refinery beside one of the Great Lakes and shipped on tankers from there?^Third – and sorry if I sound like a broken record, but why isn’t there a willingness to build pipes that can carry water from flooding streams and rivers to areas experiencing drought? A recent story about sinkholes and contamination caused by a salt mine indicates that desalination plants on the coasts would have a dual purpose. They could pump fresh water to inland areas where there is drought or where rivers/lakes are running low and the salt/brine generated could be used for food and industrial purposes. Some engineers with whom I’ve spoken believe a well designed system could possibly power most of its own energy needs…a form of “perpetual energy” maker.^It is sad that tax dollars used to subsidize the oil company who owns this pipe, a pipe that may have been subsidized at the time of its construction, did not go to into upgrading and securing the system instead of enriching CEO’s. This incident, like the BP oil spill, and Massey Mines, and too many other examples show the need for regulation, supervision, and strict enforcement. Respectfully,C.
Back in 2007, near where I used to live, a teenager used a battery powered drill a drill a hole in a 6 inch ammonia pipeline.Someone had told him there was a pipe with money in it underneath a bridge.He was severly burned by the pressurized anhydrous ammonia.It took two days to fix the hole, and residents (not me) had to evacuate their homes and traffic was rerouted.Most people blamed the pipeline company for lack of security.
This thing will poison our Oglala aquifer! As well as other aquifers, cities, lakes, rivers, small towns and the list goes on. It will not lower the price of gas, and will cost millions in clean-ups.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
There’s of course no danger from pipelines, well unless you consider kids killed in Washington state when one failed, or several natural gas pipelines in Texas over a short period of time that killed several people.
BTW, that old and failed infrastructure for highways, bridges, and railroad lines that haven’t been maintained, also applies to those oil and gas pipelines the companies aren’t about to spend any extra bucks from their profit margins to maintain.
Uncle Joe Premium Member about 11 years ago
I have a friend who was involved in getting that mess cleaned up. What the pipeline owner calls, “clean” is not what people living with the mess call “clean”.
edward thomas Premium Member about 11 years ago
And ALL that oil is going to the Gulf. Why? Because it’s going OVERSEAS! It won’t “save” us anything on gas!
Chillbilly about 11 years ago
I think we should fix our current crumbling infrastructure before we introduce a future problem to the mix.
rockngolfer about 11 years ago
Some oil can be collected with skimmers or foam. The Canadian tar sands oil that is flowing through the Arkansas neighborhood is heavy and sinks in water. No one knows what it will do to the aquifer or the streams.
chazandru about 11 years ago
First thought – In numerous reports from Arkansas, residents who have abandoned their homes because of this oil have said over and over again they were not aware the pipeline was there. In my area, real estate agents have to disclose things like that. If the seller of a home says the house is haunted, THAT has to be diclosed; you also have to disclose if a violent crime occurred in the home. Is this poor regulation or an unintentional loophole in the disclosure rules?^Second – All other arguments aside, why is it necessary to pipe the Keystone chemicals to the hurricane prone Gulf Coast across the tornado prone prairies? Why can’t a shorter pipe line be built to a new, more efficient refinery beside one of the Great Lakes and shipped on tankers from there?^Third – and sorry if I sound like a broken record, but why isn’t there a willingness to build pipes that can carry water from flooding streams and rivers to areas experiencing drought? A recent story about sinkholes and contamination caused by a salt mine indicates that desalination plants on the coasts would have a dual purpose. They could pump fresh water to inland areas where there is drought or where rivers/lakes are running low and the salt/brine generated could be used for food and industrial purposes. Some engineers with whom I’ve spoken believe a well designed system could possibly power most of its own energy needs…a form of “perpetual energy” maker.^It is sad that tax dollars used to subsidize the oil company who owns this pipe, a pipe that may have been subsidized at the time of its construction, did not go to into upgrading and securing the system instead of enriching CEO’s. This incident, like the BP oil spill, and Massey Mines, and too many other examples show the need for regulation, supervision, and strict enforcement. Respectfully,C.
rockngolfer about 11 years ago
Back in 2007, near where I used to live, a teenager used a battery powered drill a drill a hole in a 6 inch ammonia pipeline.Someone had told him there was a pipe with money in it underneath a bridge.He was severly burned by the pressurized anhydrous ammonia.It took two days to fix the hole, and residents (not me) had to evacuate their homes and traffic was rerouted.Most people blamed the pipeline company for lack of security.
pirate227 about 11 years ago
I can’t wait for that oil soaked wheat…
pam Miner about 11 years ago
This thing will poison our Oglala aquifer! As well as other aquifers, cities, lakes, rivers, small towns and the list goes on. It will not lower the price of gas, and will cost millions in clean-ups.