.noun. 1. a person or thing that is equal to or corresponds with another in value, amount, function, meaning, etc.: “the French equivalent of the FBI” synonyms: counterpart, parallel, alternative, match, analog, …
adjective .1. equal in value, amount, function, meaning, etc.: “one unit is equivalent to one glass of wine” synonyms: equal, identical, same, similar, comparable, …
The female truck drivers make the same pay as the male drivers at every company I’ve worked at. But my question is, why do Talking Heads make so much money?
I think it is a little early to be talking about the wage gap between men and women. But my thoughts and prayers go out to those who are making less while doing the same work as their male counter-parts.
This is a problem that I have been fighting for 52 years. You would think that in that amount of time I would see an improvement. Guess what? There has been no improvement in equal pay for equal work. The pay Gap still exists. We have tried probably every method possible to try and get equal standing when it comes to equal pay. All to no avail. If anything the Gap has widened. It’s a sorry State of Affairs. Especially as I can tell you for sure, that I worked harder and longer and better then most of my male colleagues. You would never know it if you compared our paychecks except in the little box where it said hours worked. And even though I worked longer hours longer most of the time, my pay was still net pay less than theirs. It’s enough to make you cranky sometimes.
I think that people should be paid for what they work. I have a personal contract, have had to negotiate my own wages (benefits are standard) and a lot of times it comes down to negotiation skills in a lot of settings – and many, including myself, are not all that good at it. So we get less than we could.
Most of these arguments about gender pay disparities compare across the board numbers, and not actually the same job numbers. A male EMT vs. a female EMT. A male machinist against a female machinist. You rarely see these done. That is the only way to know if it is actually correct or not.
That being said, if a male or female takes a year off to care for a family member or raise a child, they should not be compensated at the same rate as someone that has not. That other person has another year’s experience. That will take some toll on them along their earning potential over their lives.
You cannot get away from it. If it systemic then it is wrong and they should be nailed to the wall. If it is not then there is some other reason for it.
The only cure for this is to have (God help us) the government determine what the wage should be for every single job, in every single company, in every single state. Do we really want that?
Much of the disparity in pay between men and women is due to the various jobs that are “traditionally” done by men vs. those done by women. Think nurses, teachers, child care workers, and other helping professions. This exacerbates the disparities. Ironically, the middle age men who feel themselves shut out of the labor market when they got laid off could easily retrain to work at “female” jobs, but whine and moan instead of just getting on with what would help them and their families—education, hard work, and other highly adaptive behaviors.
Given their gender stereotyping and ignorance, these are very likely the same whiners who will get tired of so much winning while waiting in vain for their coal mining jobs to reappear as if by a miracle. Tolerance of ambiguity and being adaptive to changing conditions is not known to be a conservative trait, by definition.
Darsan54 Premium Member over 6 years ago
George? George Will is that you?
Nantucket Premium Member over 6 years ago
MIKEFIVE, definition of equivalent per Oxford
.noun. 1. a person or thing that is equal to or corresponds with another in value, amount, function, meaning, etc.: “the French equivalent of the FBI” synonyms: counterpart, parallel, alternative, match, analog, …
adjective .1. equal in value, amount, function, meaning, etc.: “one unit is equivalent to one glass of wine” synonyms: equal, identical, same, similar, comparable, …
drivingfuriously Premium Member over 6 years ago
The female truck drivers make the same pay as the male drivers at every company I’ve worked at. But my question is, why do Talking Heads make so much money?
Mr. Blawt over 6 years ago
I think it is a little early to be talking about the wage gap between men and women. But my thoughts and prayers go out to those who are making less while doing the same work as their male counter-parts.
Sadandconfused9 over 6 years ago
This is a problem that I have been fighting for 52 years. You would think that in that amount of time I would see an improvement. Guess what? There has been no improvement in equal pay for equal work. The pay Gap still exists. We have tried probably every method possible to try and get equal standing when it comes to equal pay. All to no avail. If anything the Gap has widened. It’s a sorry State of Affairs. Especially as I can tell you for sure, that I worked harder and longer and better then most of my male colleagues. You would never know it if you compared our paychecks except in the little box where it said hours worked. And even though I worked longer hours longer most of the time, my pay was still net pay less than theirs. It’s enough to make you cranky sometimes.
"It's the End of the World!!!" Premium Member over 6 years ago
I think that people should be paid for what they work. I have a personal contract, have had to negotiate my own wages (benefits are standard) and a lot of times it comes down to negotiation skills in a lot of settings – and many, including myself, are not all that good at it. So we get less than we could.
Most of these arguments about gender pay disparities compare across the board numbers, and not actually the same job numbers. A male EMT vs. a female EMT. A male machinist against a female machinist. You rarely see these done. That is the only way to know if it is actually correct or not.
That being said, if a male or female takes a year off to care for a family member or raise a child, they should not be compensated at the same rate as someone that has not. That other person has another year’s experience. That will take some toll on them along their earning potential over their lives.
You cannot get away from it. If it systemic then it is wrong and they should be nailed to the wall. If it is not then there is some other reason for it.
The only cure for this is to have (God help us) the government determine what the wage should be for every single job, in every single company, in every single state. Do we really want that?
twclix over 6 years ago
Much of the disparity in pay between men and women is due to the various jobs that are “traditionally” done by men vs. those done by women. Think nurses, teachers, child care workers, and other helping professions. This exacerbates the disparities. Ironically, the middle age men who feel themselves shut out of the labor market when they got laid off could easily retrain to work at “female” jobs, but whine and moan instead of just getting on with what would help them and their families—education, hard work, and other highly adaptive behaviors.
Given their gender stereotyping and ignorance, these are very likely the same whiners who will get tired of so much winning while waiting in vain for their coal mining jobs to reappear as if by a miracle. Tolerance of ambiguity and being adaptive to changing conditions is not known to be a conservative trait, by definition.