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Luann by Greg Evans for November 20, 2018

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    Mordock999 Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Well, I have to say right here and right now, that I now owe Irma Berger-Gray an apology. She is no longer the most “clueless” person in the Strip. THAT “Honor” now belongs Tom Farrell. HOW in the name of J.D. Rockefeller did he ever amass his fortune being if he’s so easily suckered by some female flim flam artist? “Old Money?”

    No wonder Greg has elected not to show Tom’s face. Any man that treats his daughter like a piece of household furniture doesn’t deserve to be depicted. The man is a DISGRACE!

    Oh yeah, I owe Jonah Daytona an apology also, because he’s now no longer the worse father in the Strip.

    So what now? Ann is not going to let Tiffany just leave. I got feeling an Atom Bomb is about to be dropped……,

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    SactoSylvia  about 1 year ago

    Smart move, Tiffany! There’s nothing to be gained by subjecting yourself to whatever Ann has in mind.

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    Namrepus  about 1 year ago

    So, Tiff’s dad is like Tim the Toolman’s neighbor, except we never see any part of his face.

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    Cheapskate0  about 1 year ago

    YEAH! SHE LEFT!

    There is hope in the Luannverse after all!

    And I’m also thinking, this the last we’ll see the back of Thomas Cat for a while. And we’ll probably never see his front, either.

    Either way, no loss!

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    howtheduck  about 1 year ago

    I guess Tom and Ann Eiffel drove there separately in preparation for Tom’s departure and the Ann / Tiffany discussion, although I don’t know why he can’t pick up his own scented oil.

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    dolphin  about 1 year ago

    What could Ann and Tom want scented oil for and why must Ann get it?

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    luann1212  about 1 year ago

    I am not surprised that Tiffany is leaving, after all she hates Ann with good reason, and she was hoping, in vain, to try to talk to her clueless, vacuous, totally useless father, but I agree with MD, something further is about to happen. I hope it does not shatter Tiffany, only makes her stronger in the long run. Ann is a sociopath’s sociopath, and plays for keeps. Oh and the scented oil bit? Tom is a selfish twit. He falls for a sex bomb grifter golddigger for affection, but has none for his daughter. He must hate her, or certainly has a poor way of showing love.

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    Argythree  about 1 year ago

    What I really hope is that Tiffany packs up her belongings in her dorm suite, moves whatever funds she has into an account that her father can’t touch, and heads for Hollywood. That’s what she wanted to do in the first place, not go to college. (But with all the fires in California right now, it might be better for her to head for New York and try for a part in a Broadway show. She has at least as much of a chance as Quill…)

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    Kymberleigh  about 1 year ago

    What a great last panel dialogue!

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    kenhense  about 1 year ago

    G & K are really having fun with us – hiding Tom’s face with a caption balloon.

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    capricorn9th  about 1 year ago

    That was what you should’ve done the moment you saw Ann sitting there – let your dad SEE you leave. But, say this first, “I’ve told you about that woman, and you wouldn’t listen, and this is an ambush, undoubtedly Ann’s idea. I’m gone. Bye” and walk away. And then go with what argythree said…close your account with what is left of your allowance, withdraw from Moony, move in with someone – Crystal, perhaps? Get a job, and I’m sure Nancy and Frank will give you a job. Save up to move to NYC. Or Paris and work for Souffle. Forget dad. He’s a lost cause and his loss. Move forward and live for yourself.

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    gnmnrbl  about 1 year ago

    In the words of yoda: cat fight i sense, ugly it will be.

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    ericbrower  about 1 year ago

    The most telling comment about this situation is Ann’s to Tom as he is leaving. Scented oils? Yep, nuff said.

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    Ruth Brown  about 1 year ago

    Now, of course, Greg is going to keep Tiffany there at the table. I hate this. Let Tiff develop.

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    BJShipley1  about 1 year ago

    Seriously, what is the point of keeping his face hidden like this? With George Steinbrenner on Seinfeld it was because he was a real person, with Peg Bundy’s mother (and more recently Howard Wolfowitz’s mother) it was for comedic effect. Doctor Doom gets his unmasked face concealed for dramatic purposes (so we don’t see the extent of his disfigurement and have to imagine it ourselves). But I’m not seeing any logical reason in keeping this guy concealed. Especially in the insanely ham-fisted way with the word balloon. At that point it became so distracting it overrode the story.

    Evans doing this reminds me of a negative review of the movie Battlefield Earth, which noted that the director did a lot of camera and visual tricks that they’d obviously seen in other films, but clearly just copied the moves without any deeper understanding of why those other directors made those cinemaphotography choices in the first place.
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    TeaFanny  about 1 year ago

    At the risk of sounding like a broken record, it is time for Tiffany to shove off. Her situation is getting worse by the minute and you can bet that conniving witch has not had her last word. Get out of this strip while you can, Tiffany!

    Maybe you can talk Lio into turning some of his critters loose on evil Ann in the middle of the night.

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    AlondraRachellaLabute  about 1 year ago

    Well that was predictable. Did he really think Tiffany was going to stay? I’d leave too.

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    alasko  about 1 year ago

    Anne just makes me want to barf. Figuratively.

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    Joe Petitjean  Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Tiff as much as you hate Ann and there are plenty of them, You and her have one thing in common y’all both love Tom. So y’all need to find some common ground.

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    kenhense  about 1 year ago

    I have a problem rooting for Tiffany here. Tiff’s motives and Ann’s motives are both selfish. I wouldn’t be overjoyed to see Ann get booted out so Tiffany can once again be Daddy’s little princess on another cruise to Paris. Time for a Deus or a Diablo Ex Machina to show up and bring us an inspired plot resolution that’s neither a victory nor a disaster (I still kinda like Ann).

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    Asharah  about 1 year ago

    So Ann will now call Tom crying about how awful Tiffany was for walking out, and Tom will call Tiffany to chew her out again.

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    steven01221971  about 1 year ago

    No wonder Tiff craves attention. She’s not getting any from her dad.

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    Jimmy90403  about 1 year ago

    Waytogo, Tiff!

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    And Your Point Would Be  about 1 year ago

    Good for you, Tiffany. Good for you. Just keep walking and don’t look back, no matter what hook Ann throws to reel you back.

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    MathProf2  about 1 year ago

    Tiffany was designed as the character-we-love-to-hate. Then she got partially rehabilitated, but without any remediation of her character flaws. Which are roughly the same as Ann’s. So this poses the question, why root for Tiffany against Ann. Of course the drawing style cues the reader: Tiffany is color and life and Anne is blackness and death (I have a problem with coding evil as blackness, but another time). But “scented oil” is another wedge: Tiffany we understand as virginal (somehow!) but Ann must be evil because she’s female and flaunts her sexual agency (I have a problem with that also).

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    AnyFace  about 1 year ago

    Be funny if we cut away tomorrow. ✨

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    TeaFanny  about 1 year ago

    A lot of positive energy flowing from the board for Tiffany. I’m going to go in a dark place, a place so dark I hope Greg never goes. Think back throughout the years. Before he went to Hawaii, who ended up with Aaron Hill? Who steadied with Quill? Who paid for her transgressions in the meals for firefighters scam when it was not her brainchild while TJ got off scott free? In the “Eyes of Zye”, whose part ended up on the cutting room floor? Who ended up as a shut in in her room eating herself almost to death because of her father and Gunther leaving her crying at her door? Greg must certainly be pushing a character to the envelope of all they can stand before they do the unmentionable. Greg has dealt with many subjects here, including Luann having her first period. If Tiffany reaches that point where life is not worth living AND DOES THE UNMENTIONABLE, I’ll never read this strip again.

    #SAVE TIFFANY

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    GuntherGrass  about 1 year ago

    Goes for me, too.

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    Tue Elung-Jensen  about 1 year ago

    Cute with the “faceless” dad.

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    Peppermeow  about 1 year ago

    I just want to throw something out there in response to something someone else said here. During junior high and high school Tiffany was just supposed to be the Alfa b****. It’s a common trope. It helped to highlight Luann’s imperfections (Luann being the relatable every girl).

    Things shifted when college rolled around. Delta and Rosa were put on a bus. Gunter was almost put on a bus until G&K thought of something for him.

    The characters were all supposed to grow. It’s college so why not change things up, right?

    It wasn’t until after high school when we get introduced to this new side of Tiffany. One with unrequited feeling and parental abandonment. It could explain her behaviour back in high school but Greg didn’t want us to feel sorry for her.

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    sueb1863  about 1 year ago

    My guess is that Tiffany won’t actually leave, Ann will say something tomorrow that forces her to stay. Probably something along blackmail lines, like she has something on her father.

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    asrialfeeple  about 1 year ago

    Tiffany shows she has brains, beauty, guts and self esteem by refusing to be ambushed by a manipulative, gold digging shark. Good for her!!

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    Kalkkuna  about 1 year ago

    It has something to do with the scented oil…

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    GirlGeek  about 1 year ago

    And I thought my Dad was bad

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    sheilag  about 1 year ago

    Tiffany’s Dad is known as the “Faceless” – a trope that is common… and I would have done the same thing (leaving), only earlier…

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    DeeDennis  about 1 year ago

    I d oook ne think its Ann’s words that have Tom infatuated. More like how she makes him feel physically. Plenty of women use their body’s to get things from men. Ann has been around the block so I’m sure it’s not beneath her to use that method for conning people.

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    Tyge Premium Member about 1 year ago

    A different tack: OK, step back. What’s the purpose of this early-in-the-week strip? What is being reinforced, introduced or set up for the rest of the week? What new, if anything, have we learned?

    1) It confirmed that this “luncheon” was a set-up; a bait and switch. 2) Ann is in complete control of Tom and that control entails a heavy “with benefits” component (we already know from Bern that Ann has moved into Tom’s digs). 3) That the purpose of the bait and switch is not reconciliatory in nature on Ann’s part, but to flaunt her dominance over Tom with the scented oil statement; clearly aimed at Tiffany. 4) Daddy Tom moves ever lower on the humanity scale by allowing this and is now somewhere between “worm” and “pond slime.” 5) Tiffany’s initial reaction is to not be drawn into Ann’s game.

    And now my speculation: Ann’s purpose for this bait and switch was to “put Tiff in her place.” To let Tiff know she is the queen bee in this hive and to lay out how Tiffany is to behave if she doesn’t want to be cut out of Tom’s life completely.

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    Wizard of Ahz-no relation  about 1 year ago

    well as I called it, she’s outta there. we need TJ, he’s the one whop’s stopped annie in the past. he needs to be dusted off and brought onto the field.

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    elliel203  about 1 year ago

    Mommy Dearest…

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    Tyge Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Observation: The timing of this arc is certainly strange for Thanksgiving week.

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    Bohica Premium Member about 1 year ago

    It’s only Tuesday, and I was tired of this particular story arc yesterday. The two least interesting characters in the strip.

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    donwalter  about 1 year ago

    One thing….I sure don’t have to wonder why THIS strip gets more comments on a daily basis, than any other strip in the comics…

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    jfdouglas2001  about 1 year ago

    Third rate Romance, low rent rendezvous. Where are the other diners?

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    james28602  about 1 year ago

    Either the sex is really great, or he is easily suckered by women…(or the sex is ok and he simply doesn’t care)

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    jeffiekins  about 1 year ago

    Tiffany should have excused herself for just a minute to go to the powder room, and put her phone on “record”. Then had that conversation with Ann.

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    Airman  about 1 year ago

    Can’t second guess success, but I’m disappointed that Greg keeps screwing around with his characters and the readers.

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    connivan  about 1 year ago

    Hey..this is a comic strip, for God’s sake

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    Tyge Premium Member about 1 year ago

    The future for Tiff: What Tiff needs right now is a White Knight (WK). They come in a variety of kinds. An emotional WK would provide her with support and a space to separate herself from her problems for a time. Several of the female characters could provide that, Luann, Bern, Dez. Gunther provided that in the recent past. His Knighthood also added the male attention component that Tiffany admitted to be desperate for. I don’t think the Les character is ready to be that kind of WK. That relationship would be toxic IMHO; a GoodNight-hood, so to speak. Tiff would be repeating her relationship with Daddy Tom.

    A situational WK would be someone that would eliminate Ann from the picture. OR One that would bridge the emotional gulf between Tiffany and her father. A WK of the first kind would be the easiest to envision and implement. Somebody called the cops; Ann goes to jail or Bolivia or some other scam rich milieu, taking a slug of Daddy cash and jewelry with her. Les blows the whistle on Ann. Al exercises “leverage” on his sister. Ann breaks up with Tom, taking a slug of cash and jewelry with her. You get the picture.

    I don’t see a WK of the second kind coming out of Greg or Karen. More likely just a return to the pre-Ann situation of a “poor little rich girl” seeking the father bond she feels she never had. Bonding with daddy would seriously alter Tiff’s role as a character in the strip. She’d be less inclined to compete with Luann for Luann’s male friends. The “old” Tiff would be a more interesting character in the upcoming (assumed) Gunther-Leslie competition.

    In any case, Tiffany will NOT exit the restaurant. There is more to be played out here. Still no hint of a ring. I have absolutely no idea where GnK is going with this major, major story line!

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    Sassy's Mom  about 1 year ago

    What Tom did was terrible and cruel. I suspect it was Ann’s idea and she has something evil in mind. He should have met with Tiffany alone and have a discussion about how the two should find a way to get along. Then he should be with the two for that meeting. He should be staying here.

    Sometimes, the best one can hope for in relationships like this is being coolly polite. More likely, they will simply need to stay away from one another. They will never be friends. Tom needs to understand that, and strive to maintain a relationship with his daughter separate from his relationship (such as it is) with Ann.

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    eladee  about 1 year ago

    Tom Farrell is completely besotted by Ann and I obvious why from her “I’ll pick up the scented oil on my way home” comment. She’s completely turned his head. I just hope he’s smart enough to have her sign a pre nup because I, too, see marriage and a baby in the future. Time for Tiff to grow up and see the world and her Daddy as they really are. Her enlightenment has just begun. I don’t think it’s smart for her to walk out without hearing what Ann has to say. Information is power! Just listen and see what you can use against her later.

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    GuacamoleCostsExtra  about 1 year ago

    Who’s going to go first? is a strange question when you are the one who orchestrated the meeting. It’s like asking someone what is this call about…when you called them. And Anne already got her message across loud and clear that she is complete control of Tom.

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    Squoop  about 1 year ago

    Exactly the right move. The more you stand up against this sort of bullying, Tiffany, the more you gain real self respect — not the kind that can be gained via glam clothes.

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    Sportymonk  about 1 year ago

    NO! Don’t walk out Tiffany or it will all be on you from your father’s point of view. You will beat Ann but lose your father. Better to sit and say nothing, let Ann think she is winning and then drop the hammer when you have everything like you want them. (Like you almost did before but Ann slipped through)

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    drewpamon  about 1 year ago

    bad move. never let your anger get in the way of your goals. Walking out helps Tiffany not at all.

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    DeenaNelson  about 1 year ago

    So here is what I HOPE happens….Tiff’s dad doesn’t actually leave but observes from afar. Ann Eiffel shows her claws, Tiffany tells Ann in no uncertain terms what a cretin she is and goes through the whole laundry list of crap she’s done over the years ALONG with the fact that she alienated Les. Tom Farrel returns, defends Tiffany and drop kicks Ann Eiffel to the CURB. Probably won’t but that would be epic.

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    shamino  about 1 year ago

    If Tiffany had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened. :-)

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    Tyge Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Leaving would be a tactical error for Tiff. Tiff should sit down and say “OK. Why did you call this meeting without my father present?” Preferably while surreptitiously turning on her phone recorder. Then eventually get around to talking about Les, the List and the lingerie scam.

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    Yorkgirl41  about 1 year ago

    I think Ann is too egocentric to want a baby. Don’t understand Tiff’s father.Hope he soon sees the truth. Somehow she needs to be exposed for what she is, unless she changes, and I don’t see that happening.

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    David Huie Green  about 1 year ago

    I hope the cellphone is set to record.

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    LeighBurton  about 1 year ago

    Tiffany has matured so much since high school. I hope she can find Tom Farrell and talk to him in private!

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    ForrestOverin  about 1 year ago

    YES! Right answer, Tiffany!

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    gileshead  about 1 year ago

    Touche, tiff. Nice move.

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    wantcomicsnow  about 1 year ago

    Tiff’s only mistake was not leaving either before or with her dad. She should have said something like: “Dad, I thought you planned this lunch so YOU AND I could spend time together. If you’re leaving, I have no reason to stay.” Then left at the same time as her dad or better yet, before he had a chance to get away.

    Now Ann WILL say something that will make Tiff stay and give her all kinds of ammunition to use against Tiff. Even if Tiff does leave and Ann has to make up a few lies, Tom will believe her because as far as he knows Tiff and Ann were there together. He didn’t believe Tiff before I doubt he’ll start now.

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    Trilogy Premium Member about 1 year ago

    I said this above but I will repeat it. ONCE:I think she should chase after her father, confront him in the parking lot with SPECIFICS, including how he has systematically bought her affection for years, and leave. Let HIM stew in the crap for a while, instead of her.

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    Trilogy Premium Member about 1 year ago

    the more I think about it, I believe that last week, when Tiff was answering Bernie’s questions, she was after all, goofing on her. There really should be a universal sarcasm FONT and an ICON.

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    Airman  about 1 year ago

    Bye, Annie, this is my butt going out the door, consider yourself orphan Annie.

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    billswingle  about 1 year ago

    Scented oil… certainly paints a picture.

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    B UTTONS  about 1 year ago

    The “scented” oil — Bengay. Ann – don’t forget the viagra

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    tabsspam  about 1 year ago

    After I write this comment, I am going to take this off the My Comics list. All the gaslighting is hitting a little too close to home. I don’t need this negativity in my life.

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    Mordock999 Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Les can help here. No, he really can. How? By calling Uncle Al. Remember, Al stepped in this past Spring when Les was about to something Predictably STUPID to get even with Ann.

    Leverage. That’s what Tiffany NEEDS over Ann. Al has got that “leverage” not Les. On the other hand, Al will want to do that on the sly because Ann has got stuff on Al, too.

    And I’ll bet that if Al, Tiffany and Les get together to plot, Gunther (And Irma) will still be left in the dark…..,

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    timbob2313 Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Ann tells Tiff “I am your mother”

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    cheesehead  about 1 year ago

    Plot twist. Ann is Tiffany’s long lost Mother (others have said that). We don’t see her Dad’s face, because when we finally do, he’ll look just like … Les!

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    Joe Maruca Premium Member about 1 year ago

    I would prefer to have Tiff turn on the phone recorder and make a fool of Ole Anne with her own words. Sit and let her threaten you Tiff….. You’ve gotta have evidence.

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    Amanda Lee  about 1 year ago

    why doesnt it show dads face

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    Original_Baskingshark  about 1 year ago

    Tiffany, turn round, smile, sit down, press the record button on your phone without Ann seeing and then let her talk…

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    locake  about 1 year ago

    The story this week is interesting, but I wonder why Ann would want to meet Tiffany for lunch. Ann seems to control Tom so it must be her idea. What would she get out of talking to Tiffany? I don’t see any motivation for Ann to do this.

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    Scott Sallstrom  about 1 year ago

    She’s the Devil, Tiff! Run fast, run far!

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    Pipe Tobacco Premium Member about 1 year ago

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    Even though I, sadly, do not think it is going to be what really happens….. I am QUITE pleased and happy that at least for today it looks like Tiffany is simply going to walk away from Ann.

    Again, I suspect that tomorrow it will not be reality.

    Tom “Cat” Ferrell is IMO deserving of whatever misfortune he receives from his interactions with Ann. It seems that his actions in regards to Tiffany will never be the real type of father-daughter relationship that Tiffany would want. I still think Tiffany’s best strategy at the moment is to somehow use whatever resources she can at the moment from what she receives from her father….. by depositing as much money as she can in the bank…. in anticipation that in some fashion, he is (or “they” will) be cutting her off…. and then Tiffany should use whatever she has amassed to carefully tide herself over while she figures out what she really should do in regards to setting up the life she wants to pursue.

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    RSH  about 1 year ago

    Now walk away Tiff… fast!!… and catch up w/ your dad. He too is misbehaving and he needs to know it. What father who hasn’t seen his daughter for months or almost a year would leave like that. He knows he’s wrong and cannot face it.

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    Aladar30 Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Don’t go away, Tiffany or Ann will use it against you with your father!

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    jaesbaird1572  about 1 year ago

    Ann is pregnant.

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    jfdouglas2001  about 1 year ago

    Got oil reminds me of a Teddy Pendergras song.

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    RSH  about 1 year ago

    Clearly all of this was Ann’s idea. She appears to have complete control over Farrell and she wants to make sure Tiffany knows that.

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    chris_weaver  about 1 year ago

    As for Tom being faceless, I’m guessing Witness Protection Program.

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    sallymargaret  about 1 year ago

    I’m very curious about Tiffany’s mother. Will she show up?

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    kenhense  about 1 year ago

    Ann’s purported errand for scented oil might open a plot door. Maybe Tiff will follow Ann and see who she hooks up with. That discovery would be the equivalent of grabbing an atrackers gun during an assault. Tiff would be in charge of any further negotiation.

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    Busrayne  about 1 year ago

    Tiff said, “Dad, you’re gonna drive me to drinkin’ cause you don’t know what that Eiffel skanks’ thinkin’……”

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    Schrodinger's Dog  about 1 year ago

    In the end, Ann may lose, but Tiffany will pay a terrible price.

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    phxhocking  about 1 year ago

    So, when did this comic strip become a soap opera? I don’t think I like it much anymore.

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    Dragoncat  about 1 year ago

    I have a question… Where is Tiffany’s mother?

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    Sisyphos  about 1 year ago

    Don’t dawdle, Tiffany! Escape the vile witch [I really wanted to spell that with a one-letter variance] before she can sink her fangs into your juicy neck (her Vampire’s Kiss would be hidden by your convenient scarf).

    Tom Farrell is a Bad Dad, thinking now only with his “little man” and completely bewitched by the witch [again, with a one-letter variance]….

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    sallymargaret  about 1 year ago

    I just read tomorrow’s comic on Arcamax. I would leave this message on tomorrow’s comments, but I want to go to bed now. Here is my comment for tomorrow…….

    “Oh, give me a bloody break.”

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    Dennett Premium Member 12 months ago

    This “Bait and switch” idea for the meeting was definitely Ann’s idea…

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